Re: [OT] What is happening in/to the US ?

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Sujet : Re: [OT] What is happening in/to the US ?
De : davef (at) *nospam* tsoft-inc.com (Dave Froble)
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Date : 15. Jul 2024, 14:59:08
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On 7/15/2024 8:52 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-07-12, Robert A. Brooks <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> wrote:
On 7/12/2024 8:07 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-07-11, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
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And I really don't see any reason to expect riots in Boston that week or
two weeks later.
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Recent history on both sides of the political spectrum in the US does not
exactly fill me with confidence in this area.
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I really, really, wish I had been wrong about that. :-( :-( :-(
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Given that Massachusetts (and Boston, specifically) are solidly in the Biden camp,
I suspect there won't be a lot of ads airing near the election.
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Both sides will be spending their advertising money in the six states where the election
is actually up for grabs.
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I can only imagine what that US would look like right now if the shooter
had not missed. :-(
While I deplore such actions, one individual trying to dictate what options are available to everyone, I must admit to a few thoughts about too bad he was such a poor marksman.

You have the US mainstream media not informing the population about
Mr Biden's decline and acting more like the political wing of the
Democratic party.
Why does everyone harp on this?  In one week I'll be 78 years old.  I don't work as quick, or long, as in the past.  Sometimes I have a bit of trouble articulating things.  But in my head I know what I'm thinking, and perhaps with experience am better at thinking than in the past.  Perhaps a bit lazier also.
Now, I have no idea about Biden's capabilities.  But neither does all the press and such.  Just makes for a good story on slow news days.
Example:  Some years ago is was seeing my allergist.  Very good in his field. But then 90 years old.  He had some trouble articulating, but I could tell he knew what he was trying to say.
Speech may be one of the hardest things we can do.  I does not always indicate our thought processes are not working so well.

You have the media saying the shooter was registered as Republican (which
I understand doesn't really mean much when tactical voting is involved)
while not mentioning that he apparently contributed to far-left causes,
so it is _very_ unclear what his politics really are.
A confused child, only 20, and a shame.  We may never know what he was thinking.

You have a part of the population which is becoming more extreme on the
right, egged on by certain narrow-minded interests.
I'll tell you what the real problem is.  The far left trying to push agendas on the country that a large part of the  population is just not too keen about. And so you get pushback.  That's what elected Trump in 2016.  The Democrats still haven't learned, and so Trump still has support.  It is the extreme left that is causing much of the extreme right.

And while the right-wing is correctly called out for certain things, you
have an underlying current of hate flowing through the so-called "nice"
Democrats:
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-assassination-bennie-thompson-aide-b2579916.html
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Her employer also wanted to cut off all Secret Service protection for
Mr Trump. Charming. :-(
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Mind you, you now have a Secret Service which appears to have gone from
being highly disciplined and effective to being absolutely bloody useless.
I don't see that.  It is impossible to be 100% all the time.

What on earth is happening to the US ?
See above.  Maybe bring back Bill Clinton ???

The above is spoken by someone who is an old-school liberal BTW (although
my old-school values seem to be seriously out of fashion these days...)
and is disturbed by what very nearly just happened.
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Simon.
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