Re: [OT] What is happening in/to the US ?

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Sujet : Re: [OT] What is happening in/to the US ?
De : clubley (at) *nospam* remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)
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Date : 16. Jul 2024, 19:37:47
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On 2024-07-15, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
On 7/15/2024 8:52 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>
You have the US mainstream media not informing the population about
Mr Biden's decline and acting more like the political wing of the
Democratic party.
>
Why does everyone harp on this?  In one week I'll be 78 years old.  I don't work
as quick, or long, as in the past.  Sometimes I have a bit of trouble
articulating things.  But in my head I know what I'm thinking, and perhaps with
experience am better at thinking than in the past.  Perhaps a bit lazier also.
>

You are not running a major country. There are different standards for
people who are running a major country.

Now, I have no idea about Biden's capabilities.  But neither does all the press
and such.  Just makes for a good story on slow news days.
>

Well, he thinks Mr Trump is his VP and he has a rather interesting opinion
on who is running Ukraine. :-)

Example:  Some years ago is was seeing my allergist.  Very good in his field.
But then 90 years old.  He had some trouble articulating, but I could tell he
knew what he was trying to say.
>
Speech may be one of the hardest things we can do.  I does not always indicate
our thought processes are not working so well.
>

This is not an articulation problem. Those problems are when you are
trying to construct a sentence and failing. That happens to all of us.

You have a part of the population which is becoming more extreme on the
right, egged on by certain narrow-minded interests.
>
I'll tell you what the real problem is.  The far left trying to push agendas on
the country that a large part of the  population is just not too keen about.
And so you get pushback.  That's what elected Trump in 2016.  The Democrats
still haven't learned, and so Trump still has support.  It is the extreme left
that is causing much of the extreme right.
>

The extreme elements on both sides are equally at fault.

You are correct in what you say above, but it looks like Mr Trump is
going to remove what remains of your social and environmental protections
if he gets back into power. That is not going to be good for anyone
(apart from a few business people).

And while the right-wing is correctly called out for certain things, you
have an underlying current of hate flowing through the so-called "nice"
Democrats:
>
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-assassination-bennie-thompson-aide-b2579916.html
>
Her employer also wanted to cut off all Secret Service protection for
Mr Trump. Charming. :-(
>
Mind you, you now have a Secret Service which appears to have gone from
being highly disciplined and effective to being absolutely bloody useless.
>
I don't see that.  It is impossible to be 100% all the time.
>

_Everyone_ else seems to think they screwed up. Badly.

What on earth is happening to the US ?
>
See above.  Maybe bring back Bill Clinton ???
>

Well, he was the last person to deal with your country's finances in
a responsible way...

Simon.

--
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.

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