Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos

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Sujet : Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos
De : arne (at) *nospam* vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 22. Jul 2024, 13:54:36
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On 7/22/2024 8:34 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-07-21, Craig A. Berry <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> wrote:
On 7/21/24 4:41 AM, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
The problem here is that Crowdstrike pushed out an evidently broken
kernel driver that locked whatever system that installed it in a
permanent boot loop. The system would start loading Windows, encounter
a fatal error, and reboot. And reboot. Again and again. It, in
essence, rendered those machines useless.
>
It was not a kernel driver.  It was a bad configuration file that
normally gets updated several times a day:
>
https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/falcon-update-for-windows-hosts-technical-details/
 If it's something that can stop the system from booting, then it _should_
be treated as if it _was_ a kernel driver.
It was config for and impacting behavior of kernel code.
So yes.

IOW, what on earth happened to the concept of a Last Known Good boot to
automatically recover from such screwups ? Windows 2000, over 2 decades
ago, had an early version of the LKG boot concept for goodness sake.
 What _should_ have happened, and what should have been built into Windows
years ago as part of the standard procedures for updating system components,
is that the original version of files that were used during the last good
boot were preserved in a backup until the next successful boot.
 After that, the preserved files would be overwritten with the updated
versions. OTOH, if the next boot fails, the last known good configuration
is restored and another reboot done, but exactly _once_ only. (If the LKG
boot fails, then it's probably some hardware failure or other external
factor).
Definitely a good concept.
Note though that it would require a smart definition of good boot.
The problem happened rather late and Windows may very well have
considered the startup successfully completed.
Arne

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 Jul 24 * A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos26Subcommandante XDelta
21 Jul 24 +- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Henry Crun
21 Jul 24 +* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos13Craig A. Berry
21 Jul 24 i+* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos8Arne Vajhøj
21 Jul 24 ii+- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Craig A. Berry
21 Jul 24 ii`* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24 ii `* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos5Gary R. Schmidt
22 Jul 24 ii  `* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24 ii   `* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos3Gary R. Schmidt
22 Jul 24 ii    +- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Arne Vajhøj
23 Jul 24 ii    `- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24 i`* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos4Simon Clubley
22 Jul 24 i `* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos3Arne Vajhøj
23 Jul 24 i  `* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24 i   `- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Simon Clubley
21 Jul 24 +* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24 i+* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos6Simon Clubley
22 Jul 24 ii+* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos2Arne Vajhøj
22 Jul 24 iii`- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Arne Vajhøj
22 Jul 24 ii+* Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos2Craig A. Berry
22 Jul 24 iii`- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Simon Clubley
24 Jul 24 ii`- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Arne Vajhøj
22 Jul 24 i+- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Arne Vajhøj
22 Jul 24 i`- Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos1Arne Vajhøj
29 Jul 24 `* Re: Computing is Complex (was: Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos)2Stephen Hoffman
29 Jul 24  `- Re: Computing is Complex (was: Re: A meditation on the Antithesis of the VMS Ethos)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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