Re: BridgeWorks

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Sujet : Re: BridgeWorks
De : already5chosen (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Michael S)
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Date : 23. Jul 2024, 12:52:35
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:55:35 -0400
Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

On 7/22/2024 10:41 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 21:17:57 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: 
The difference is that we've gotten a lot better at breaking AES. 
 
What advances have been made on that score? 
 
I think it was a hypothetical scenario.
 
The original recommendation was to stick with AES-128, and not
bother with AES-192 or AES-256; as far as I know that hasn’t
changed. 
 
People should use AES-256 today - not AES-128.
 
AES-128 is toast if/when they make a quantum computer with
enough qubits. AES-256 is good.
 
Arne
 

It does not sound right.
We can be sufficiently sure that quantum computer capable of breaking
AES128 in, say, less than 10 years of compute time is not going to be
built in the next 50 years.
On the other hand, there exist non-negligible chance that quantum
computer capable of breaking at least one of today's popular key
exchange algorithms will be built in next 20-25 years. And that would
affect all protocols that use broken key exchange regardless of
robustness of underlying symmetric cipher - AES256 would fair no better
than ancient DES.
If you believe in quantum threat, you should care first and foremost
about key exchange part of your solution. The symmetric part, assuming
that it's AES128 or better is safe.




Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Jul 24 * BridgeWorks88Arne Vajhøj
19 Jul 24 `* Re: BridgeWorks87Craig A. Berry
20 Jul 24  `* Re: BridgeWorks86Arne Vajhøj
21 Jul 24   +* Re: BridgeWorks80Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Jul 24   i+* Re: BridgeWorks4Arne Vajhøj
21 Jul 24   ii+- Re: BridgeWorks1Scott Dorsey
21 Jul 24   ii`* Re: BridgeWorks2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24   ii `- Re: BridgeWorks1Scott Dorsey
21 Jul 24   i+* Re: BridgeWorks74Dave Froble
21 Jul 24   ii+* Re: BridgeWorks34Scott Dorsey
22 Jul 24   iii`* Re: BridgeWorks33Dave Froble
22 Jul 24   iii `* Re: BridgeWorks32Simon Clubley
22 Jul 24   iii  +* Re: BridgeWorks30Scott Dorsey
22 Jul 24   iii  i`* Re: BridgeWorks29David Wade
23 Jul 24   iii  i +* Re: BridgeWorks2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24   iii  i i`- Re: BridgeWorks1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24   iii  i `* Re: BridgeWorks26Grant Taylor
23 Jul 24   iii  i  +* Re: BridgeWorks6Grant Taylor
23 Jul 24   iii  i  i`* Re: BridgeWorks5Simon Clubley
23 Jul 24   iii  i  i `* Re: BridgeWorks4David Wade
24 Jul 24   iii  i  i  `* Re: BridgeWorks3Arne Vajhøj
24 Jul 24   iii  i  i   `* Re: BridgeWorks2Simon Clubley
24 Jul 24   iii  i  i    `- Re: BridgeWorks1Arne Vajhøj
23 Jul 24   iii  i  `* Re: BridgeWorks19Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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24 Jul 24   iii  i   i `- Re: BridgeWorks1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24   iii  i   +* Re: BridgeWorks6Grant Taylor
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23 Jul 24   iii  i   i  `* Re: BridgeWorks3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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24 Jul 24   iii   `* Re: BridgeWorks31Arne Vajhøj
24 Jul 24   iii    +* Re: BridgeWorks21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Jul 24   iii    i+* Re: BridgeWorks2Simon Clubley
25 Jul 24   iii    ii`- Re: BridgeWorks1Dave Froble
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25 Jul 24   iii    ii`* Re: BridgeWorks8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Jul 24   iii    ii `* Re: BridgeWorks7Arne Vajhøj
25 Jul 24   iii    ii  +* Re: BridgeWorks4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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27 Jul 24   iii    i`* Re: BridgeWorks9John Dallman
28 Jul 24   iii    i +* Re: BridgeWorks3Arne Vajhøj
28 Jul 24   iii    i i+- Re: BridgeWorks1Chris Townley
28 Jul 24   iii    i i`- Re: BridgeWorks1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Aug 24   iii    i `* Re: BridgeWorks5Gary Sparkes
7 Aug 24   iii    i  +- Re: BridgeWorks1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Aug 24   iii    i  +* Re: BridgeWorks2John Dallman
7 Aug 24   iii    i  i`- Re: BridgeWorks1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Aug 24   iii    i  `- Re: BridgeWorks1Arne Vajhøj
24 Jul 24   iii    +* Re: BridgeWorks7Dave Froble
24 Jul 24   iii    i`* Re: BridgeWorks6Arne Vajhøj
25 Jul 24   iii    i `* Re: BridgeWorks5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Jul 24   iii    i  `* Re: BridgeWorks4Arne Vajhøj
25 Jul 24   iii    i   +- Re: BridgeWorks1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Jul 24   iii    i   +- Re: BridgeWorks1Dave Froble
8 Aug 24   iii    i   `- Re: BridgeWorks1Dave Froble
25 Jul 24   iii    `* Re: BridgeWorks2Dave Froble
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22 Jul 24   ii`- Re: BridgeWorks1Arne Vajhøj
7 Aug 24   i`- Re: BridgeWorks1Gary Sparkes
21 Jul 24   `* Re: BridgeWorks5John Dallman
21 Jul 24    `* Re: BridgeWorks4Arne Vajhøj
21 Jul 24     +* Re: BridgeWorks2Craig A. Berry
21 Jul 24     i`- Re: BridgeWorks1Craig A. Berry
21 Jul 24     `- Re: BridgeWorks1John Dallman

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