Re: New VSI post on Youtube

On 8/20/2024 2:23 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:

On 2024-08-20, bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/20/2024 8:29 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:

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I stopped working with Java almost a decade ago. (it coincided with
my retirement when I no longer had to do work for others!)
But, here goes....
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At times, Java itself seems to "feel" like it has been designed by theorists
with little real-world experience.

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What makes you think it wasn't?  Kinda like Ada.  The USAF came up
with an idea because they needed it for their jets.  Others got
involved resulting in a product that no longer met their needs.
DOD mandated Ada usage.  The USAF said no thank you and went back
to Jovial.  :-)
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 Huh ? Ada has seen a _lot_ of use in safety-critical applications,
including in areas where there is no government mandate.

Of course it has.  And there is no doubt it is a pretty good
language.  But the point was it ended up being nothing like
the original requestor asked for.  The usual result of design
by committee.

 I can't speak to going back to Jovial (assuming you have not got
the details wrong), but the other choices such as C++ seemed to be
more political in nature once the mandate was dropped.

That comment was a little tongue in cheek.  Jovial isn't and to
the best of my knowledge never was used for embedded programming.
But the USAF used it a lot for a lot of other things.  Their
intent was for Ada to become their standard language.  Never happened
and they did continue using Jovial.
bill