Re: C and C++, promotion, stabilization, migrationFor embedded

On 8/27/2024 8:54 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:

On 2024-08-25, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:

On 8/23/2024 7:41 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 19:34:18 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
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UTF-8 in file names, in usernames, in logicals, in identifiers and in
programs/scripts: not really needed.

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I would say these are needed.
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I have to ask, why?
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All the objects mentioned by Arne are in simple terms 'tokens' to represent some
object.  I see no reason for the elements in such tokens to be more complex than
required.  Perhaps a bit more complex than the "A", "B", "C", etc of WEENDOZE
disk names.  But needing everything every user might dream up?  I don't see the
benefit.  Other than perhaps stubbornness and ego of some particular user.  It
just defies the KISS principal, which I find to be useful.
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If I had said "that there was no need for UTF-8 because we will just have
people use British English from now on", then how do you think that would
have come across ?

Well, there are precedents ...
In the world of aviation, and that isn't such a small world, the standard is English.  If there is a pilot in the area that requests all communications are in English, then that is the rule, at least as I remember it.  That way everyone knows what everyone else is saying, and doing.

Yet you have just done the same David. You have just said that if it is
not used in US English then it is not important and the rest of the world
should just learn to restrict itself to US ASCII characters in their use
of filenames, etc.

The issue is not importance, the issues are reasonable benefits, and ease of usage.
For the data, sure, it can be very important to have whatever is required.  But for the tag/token representing the data, not at all.  Can you describe any situation where Ascii is not sufficient for a filename?  And then there is the issue of sorting.

Contrary to what you Americans believe, the world is MUCH more than just
a single country called the United States. A country that, due to its
own failings and short sightedness, is no longer master of its own destiny.

Well, yeah, we came up with Trump, and that is a big mistake.  We also are claiming support of Isreal is "iron clad", and all that does is encourage them to take actions that they would not without that guarantee, and that is sooner or later going to get some US servicemen killed.  Possibly it is fear of the Jewish voters, who are US citizens and should be thinking about the US, not some other country, just because of religion, the worst thing that has happened to the human race.
We avoided Hitle, Nevill Chamberlain, and that list could be long.
Whoo, you really threw me on that soapbox, huh?
:-)
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