Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS

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Sujet : Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS
De : clubley (at) *nospam* remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 09. Sep 2024, 13:19:50
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On 2024-09-06, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
On 9/4/2024 3:29 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 9/3/2024 10:48 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
On 9/3/2024 2:02 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-09-03, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
As for VMS and Pascal, there is a very decent implementation of that
language on
VMS, so what's the problem when a product aimed at a different environment will
not run on every environment.
>
So how capable are the OO features in VMS Pascal these days ?
>
You state that similar to my comment above, as if it is a given that OO is
necessary.  Perhaps not.  Cheap way to avoid my question.
>
If you write OS kernel or an embedded application for a device counting
memory in KB (or maybe a few MB): it is not necessary.
>
Ok, your word, "necessary".
>
Explain to me why OO is necessary ...
>
Not that it may be useful, or desired.  You wrote "necessary".
>

Because the sheer size of the projects involved require the additional
abstraction and encapsulation that OO brings to the table.

There is a reason why Ada, a language designed for building extremely
large safety-critical systems, added OO features to its second iteration
and the only debate has been on the syntax, not whether those OO features
were required.

It's the exact same reason why no-one builds a OS in assembly language
these days. Technically you "could" do it, but to build something viable
and robust and in a reasonable amount of time, it is "necessary" to use
a higher-level language such as C.

Simon.

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Sep 24 * Fun: Object Pascal on VMS36Arne Vajhøj
3 Sep 24 `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS35Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Sep 24  +- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Single Stage to Orbit
3 Sep 24  +* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS15Simon Clubley
3 Sep 24  i`* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS14Dave Froble
3 Sep 24  i `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS13Simon Clubley
3 Sep 24  i  +- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1bill
3 Sep 24  i  +- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
4 Sep 24  i  `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS10Dave Froble
4 Sep 24  i   +* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS8Arne Vajhøj
7 Sep 24  i   i`* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS7Dave Froble
7 Sep 24  i   i +- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
7 Sep 24  i   i +* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS2bill
7 Sep 24  i   i i`- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Dave Froble
9 Sep 24  i   i `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS3Simon Clubley
9 Sep 24  i   i  +- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Michael S
9 Sep 24  i   i  `- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Dan Cross
4 Sep 24  i   `- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
3 Sep 24  `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS18Arne Vajhøj
3 Sep 24   `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS17Craig A. Berry
3 Sep 24    +* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS6Arne Vajhøj
4 Sep 24    i`* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS5Arne Vajhøj
7 Sep 24    i `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Sep 24    i  +- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
7 Sep 24    i  +- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
9 Sep 24    i  `- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Simon Clubley
4 Sep 24    `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS10bill
4 Sep 24     `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS9Arne Vajhøj
4 Sep 24      +* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS4bill
4 Sep 24      i+* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS2Dave Froble
4 Sep 24      ii`- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Simon Clubley
4 Sep 24      i`- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
4 Sep 24      `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS4Chris Townley
4 Sep 24       `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS3Arne Vajhøj
4 Sep 24        `* Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Sep 24         `- Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS1Simon Clubley

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