Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 2024

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Sujet : Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 2024
De : clubley (at) *nospam* remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 25. Sep 2024, 13:19:34
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On 2024-09-24, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
On 9/19/2024 8:22 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-09-18, Tom Wade <nospam@void.blackhole.mx> wrote:
On 2024-09-18 00:25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
But it?s not ISO 8601.
>
Very true, but better than the AM/PM stuff, and unambiguous (unlike
mm/dd/yy or dd/mm/yy).
 
VMS date/time formats are much more readable, but the main problem with
VMS timekeeping is that it doesn't have a local timezone offset from a base
GMT/UTC timepoint built into it.
>
What is SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL then?
>

A joke. At least when compared to Unix.

In Unix, all timestamps are based on GMT/UTC and the user's timezone is
just an attribute of the user's process, which is the system timezone by
default but can be changed by the user. Different processes can have
different timezones and none of this affects what timestamp is actually
written to the filesystem when the file changes.

VMS commands have no support for showing the active timezone.
Compare the output of the Linux date command with $ SHOW TIME.

Compare the output of the Linux "ls --full" command with $ DIR/FULL.
Note out the Linux command shows the timezone, and note how the timezone
changes for each file depending on whether DST was active or not when the
file was last modified.

Simon.

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Sep 24 * VMS Software Bootcamp 202432William Cox
13 Sep 24 `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 202431Arne Vajhøj
13 Sep 24  +* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 202429Simon Clubley
13 Sep 24  i+* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 202423Robert A. Brooks
13 Sep 24  ii`* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 202422Chris Townley
16 Sep 24  ii `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 202421Simon Clubley
16 Sep 24  ii  +* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20242Arne Vajhøj
16 Sep 24  ii  i`- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Chris Townley
17 Sep 24  ii  `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 202418Tom Wade
18 Sep 24  ii   `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 202417Arne Vajhøj
18 Sep 24  ii    +* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 202415Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Sep 24  ii    i+* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20245Arne Vajhøj
18 Sep 24  ii    ii`* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20244Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Sep 24  ii    ii `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20243Arne Vajhøj
18 Sep 24  ii    ii  `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20242Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Sep 24  ii    ii   `- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Arne Vajhøj
18 Sep 24  ii    i`* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20249Tom Wade
18 Sep 24  ii    i +* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20243Arne Vajhøj
18 Sep 24  ii    i i+- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Arne Vajhøj
19 Sep 24  ii    i i`- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Tom Wade
19 Sep 24  ii    i `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20245Simon Clubley
25 Sep 24  ii    i  `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20244Arne Vajhøj
25 Sep 24  ii    i   +* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20242Simon Clubley
25 Sep 24  ii    i   i`- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Arne Vajhøj
26 Sep 24  ii    i   `- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Stephen Hoffman
18 Sep 24  ii    `- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Arne Vajhøj
14 Sep 24  i`* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20245Arne Vajhøj
14 Sep 24  i +- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241abrsvc
14 Sep 24  i `* Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20243Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Sep 24  i  +- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Craig A. Berry
15 Sep 24  i  `- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Arne Vajhøj
27 Sep 24  `- Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 20241Arne Vajhøj

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