Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns

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Sujet : Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns
De : arne (at) *nospam* vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 21. Oct 2024, 01:32:41
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On 10/20/2024 8:28 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 20:13:50 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 10/20/2024 8:06 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 19:08:41 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
Let me try again.
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DB write to plates & system crash => OK but slow
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The DB knows how to make this fast. Remember its cache is faster than
any disk controller.
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This is where the DB is writing to plates.
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You can add a fourth scenario:
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DB write to DB cache & system crash => guaranteed problem with
transaction
 Transaction resilience is a standard thing with databases (and journalling
filesystems) going back decades.
Yes.
But they can't do miracles.
To be sure to come up ok after a system crash it is either write to
plates or write to a cache that will survive the system crash (raid
controller cache with battery backup).

Some DBMSes don’t even want to work through filesystems, they would rather
manage the raw storage themselves. This is why POSIX async I/O exists
<https://manpages.debian.org/7/aio.7.en.html>.
Yes. That is to avoid any dangerous OS/filesystem cache (and possible
for better performance).
Arne

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Oct 24 * RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns44Richard Jordan
18 Oct 24 +* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns36Craig A. Berry
19 Oct 24 i+* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Oct 24 ii`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns5Arne Vajhøj
19 Oct 24 ii `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Oct 24 ii  `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns3Arne Vajhøj
19 Oct 24 ii   `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Oct 24 ii    `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 i+* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns27Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns26Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns25Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii  `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns24Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii   `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns23Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii    `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns22Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii     `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii      +* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns16Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii      i`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns15Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii      i `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns14Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii      i  `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns13Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i   `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns12Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i    `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i     `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns10Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i      `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i       `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns8Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i        `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i         `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns6Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i          `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i           `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns4Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i            `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i             `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Simon Clubley
21 Oct 24 ii      i              `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Dan Cross
20 Oct 24 ii      +* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Craig A. Berry
20 Oct 24 ii      i`- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Simon Clubley
21 Oct 24 ii       `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 i`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Richard Jordan
21 Oct 24 i `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Craig A. Berry
19 Oct 24 +- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Volker Halle
5 Nov 24 +* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns3Richard Jordan
5 Nov 24 i`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2abrsvc
5 Nov 24 i `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Richard Jordan
5 Nov 24 `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns3Volker Halle
5 Nov 24  `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Richard Jordan
7 Nov 24   `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Volker Halle

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