Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux

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Sujet : Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux
De : arne (at) *nospam* vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 03. Dec 2024, 15:42:42
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On 12/3/2024 9:33 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 12/2/2024 10:09 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
Matthew R. Wilson <mwilson@mattwilson.org> wrote:
KVM is largely dependent on qemu to provide the rest of the actual
virtual system. qemu's a great project and I run a ton of desktop VMs
with qemu+KVM, but it just doesn't have the level of maturity or
edge-case support that ESXi does. Pretty much any x86 operating system,
historical or current, _just works_ in ESXi.  With qemu+KVM, you're
going to have good success with the "big name" OSes...Windows, Linux,
the major BSDs, etc., but you're going to be fighting with quirks and
problems if you're trying, say, old OS/2 releases. That's not relevant
for most people looking for virtualization solutions, and the problems
aren't always insurmountable, but you're claiming that KVM is a "better"
solution, whereas in my experience, in reality, ESXi is the better
technology.
>
What you wrote is now very atypical use: faithfully implementing
all quirks of real devices.  More typical case is guest which
knows that it is running on a hypervisor and uses virtual
interface with no real counterpart.  For this quality of
virtual interfaces matters.  I do not know how ESXi compares
to KVM, but I know that "equivalent" but different virtual
interfaces in qemu+KVM may have markedly different performance.
 Are you talking about paravirtual drivers?
 To get back to VMS then I don't think VMS got any of those.
Hmm. Not correct. Reading 9.2-3 installation notes:
<quote>
Also, two para-virtualized NICs, virtio for KVM, and VMXNET 3 for ESXi.
</quote>
Arne

Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Nov 24 * VMWARE/ESXi Linux51David Turner
27 Nov 24 +- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Robert A. Brooks
27 Nov 24 +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux38Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Nov 24 i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux37John Dallman
28 Nov 24 i `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux36Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Nov 24 i  `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux35Matthew R. Wilson
28 Nov 24 i   +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux10Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux9Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i   i +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux7Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i i+* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux4Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i   i ii`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux3Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i ii `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i   i ii  `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Dennis Boone
3 Dec 24 i   i i `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Nov 24 i   +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
28 Nov 24 i   i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1John Dallman
28 Nov 24 i   +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Nov 24 i   i+- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1John Dallman
29 Nov 24 i   i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i   `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux19Waldek Hebisch
3 Dec 24 i    +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux15Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24 i    i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux14Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    i +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux5Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i    i i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux4Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    i i `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux3Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i    i i  `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    i i   `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i    i +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Dec 24 i    i i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux6Arne Vajhøj
4 Dec 24 i    i i `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux5Dan Cross
4 Dec 24 i    i i  +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
4 Dec 24 i    i i  i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
4 Dec 24 i    i i  `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
4 Dec 24 i    i i   `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
4 Dec 24 i    i `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dave Froble
3 Dec 24 i    +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
28 Nov 24 +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
28 Nov 24 i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Nov 24 +- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Gcalliet
2 Dec 24 `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Dec 24  +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux6John Dallman
4 Dec 24  i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux5Simon Clubley
4 Dec 24  i +- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Simon Clubley
4 Dec 24  i +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
5 Dec 24  i i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Simon Clubley
6 Dec 24  i `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dave Froble
3 Dec 24  `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Arne Vajhøj

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