Re: Screen management in C

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Sujet : Re: Screen management in C
De : davef (at) *nospam* tsoft-inc.com (Dave Froble)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 30. Dec 2024, 02:08:55
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On 12/27/2024 8:10 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
On 28/12/2024 00:32, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 12/27/2024 3:54 PM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 14:34 -0500, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
This has been discussed previously here:
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https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/ufBEqvGdglU
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That discussion has pointers to various examples,
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In general VMS Pascal/VMS Basic code should be maybe 25% shorter
than equivalent C code. But with a descriptor centric API like
SMG$ then it may be more like 40% shorter.
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One could make a nice wrapper in C++ encapsulating the context
and convert between stl::string / C char array and descriptors.
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But then a full screen VT UI is a concept that has been obsolete
for 30 years, so maybe there is little point.
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People are still writing apps using the console.
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There is still a need to write command line tools. Mostly
for system administrators and developers, but still there.
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But full screen VT UI applications? I doubt many of those
get written today. Whether custom code using SMG$ or one
of TDMS/FMS/DECForms. The end users expectations for UI
has changed. GUI or Web.
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Arne
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In the mid naughties I used SMG to provide a better UI for HHTs on the shop
floor - using a terminal emulator on the HHTs
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Far better than the earlier implementation.
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This was in Basic, where I wrote a couple of functions to front end it, then
called the SMG routines.
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Went down well on the shop floor
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And let me guess, a WEENDOZE GUI might not work so well on the shop floor?
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Dec 24 * Screen management in C20David Meyer
27 Dec 24 +* Re: Screen management in C18Arne Vajhøj
27 Dec 24 i`* Re: Screen management in C17Craig A. Berry
27 Dec 24 i `* Re: Screen management in C16Arne Vajhøj
27 Dec 24 i  +* Re: Screen management in C6Single Stage to Orbit
28 Dec 24 i  i`* Re: Screen management in C5Arne Vajhøj
28 Dec 24 i  i `* Re: Screen management in C4Chris Townley
28 Dec 24 i  i  +- Re: Screen management in C1Arne Vajhøj
30 Dec 24 i  i  `* Re: Screen management in C2Dave Froble
30 Dec 24 i  i   `- Re: Screen management in C1Chris Townley
28 Dec 24 i  +* Re: Screen management in C4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Dec 24 i  i`* Re: Screen management in C3Arne Vajhøj
28 Dec 24 i  i +- Re: Screen management in C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jan 25 i  i `- Re: Screen management in C1Simon Clubley
28 Dec 24 i  `* Re: Screen management in C5Arne Vajhøj
31 Dec 24 i   `* Re: Screen management in C4Arne Vajhøj
31 Dec 24 i    `* Re: Screen management in C3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Dec 24 i     `* Re: Screen management in C2Arne Vajhøj
31 Dec 24 i      `- Re: Screen management in C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Dec 24 `- Re: Screen management in C1Stephen Hoffman

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