Re: basic BASIC question

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Sujet : Re: basic BASIC question
De : cross (at) *nospam* spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 01. Feb 2025, 05:29:50
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In article <679d7b05$0$713$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>,
Arne Vajhøj  <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
On 1/31/2025 5:05 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
In article <679d26bd$0$713$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>,
Arne Vajhøj  <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
But there is no consistency between languages.
>
$ type dump.for
[snip]
 
I don't know why this should be surprising?
>
I don't know if it is surprising, but it is inconsistent.

What I mean is, why is it notable that they are inconsistent?
They are, after all, different languages that come from
different places and took different evolutionary paths.  They
have different standards defining them and mandating different
things; Pascal and C, define the values of the boolean literals
as 0 and 1; C goes further and mandates that the allowable
values in a `bool` are 0 (false) and 1 (true).  The reference
manuals for the versions of BASIC and Fortran in use here
mandate that -1 is the value for the `false` literal.

                 Fortran       Pascal        C          Basic
true literal       -1             1      usually 1    usually -1
false literal       0             0          0            0
test            low bit set  low bit set   not 0        not 0

These program snippets conflate two separate things: whether an
integer, when evaluated in a boolean context, yields a `true` or
`false` value, and the value that represents a literal `true`
constant.

4 languages - 4 ways of doing it.

Four different syntaxes, too. :-)

- Dan C.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Jan 25 * basic BASIC question62Arne Vajhøj
31 Jan 25 +* Re: basic BASIC question3Robert A. Brooks
31 Jan 25 i`* Re: basic BASIC question2Arne Vajhøj
31 Jan 25 i `- Re: basic BASIC question1Chris Townley
31 Jan 25 +- Re: basic BASIC question1jeffrey_dsi
31 Jan 25 +* Re: basic BASIC question35Dave Froble
31 Jan 25 i+* Re: basic BASIC question33Arne Vajhøj
31 Jan 25 ii+* Re: basic BASIC question30Dan Cross
31 Jan 25 iii+* Re: basic BASIC question27Arne Vajhøj
31 Jan 25 iiii+* Re: basic BASIC question11Dan Cross
1 Feb 25 iiiii+* Re: basic BASIC question2Craig A. Berry
1 Feb 25 iiiiii`- Re: basic BASIC question1Arne Vajhøj
1 Feb 25 iiiii`* Re: basic BASIC question8Arne Vajhøj
1 Feb 25 iiiii +* Re: basic BASIC question6Arne Vajhøj
1 Feb 25 iiiii i`* Re: basic BASIC question5Arne Vajhøj
1 Feb 25 iiiii i +- Re: basic BASIC question1Dan Cross
2 Feb 25 iiiii i `* Re: basic BASIC question3Craig A. Berry
2 Feb 25 iiiii i  `* Re: basic BASIC question2Arne Vajhøj
2 Feb 25 iiiii i   `- Re: basic BASIC question1Dan Cross
1 Feb 25 iiiii `- Re: basic BASIC question1Dan Cross
31 Jan 25 iiii`* Re: basic BASIC question15Arne Vajhøj
2 Feb 25 iiii +- Re: basic BASIC question1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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31 Jan 25 iii `- Re: basic BASIC question1Dan Cross
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3 Feb 25 i `- Re: basic BASIC question1Simon Clubley
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