Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?

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Sujet : Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?
De : cross (at) *nospam* spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 21. Feb 2025, 14:13:12
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Organisation : PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <vp9snk$2arhn$1@paganini.bofh.team>,
Waldek Hebisch <antispam@fricas.org> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:05:35 -0500, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
 
* cluster with node A and B
* critical process P that for whatever reason does not work
   running concurrent on multiple nodes runs on A
* node A needs to be taken down for some reason
* so VMS on node A and B does some magic and migrate P from A to B
   transparent to users (obviously require a cluster IP address or load
   balancer)
 
Linux virtualization migrates entire VMs that way, rather than individual
processes.
>
Migrating whole VM will also migrate _current_ kernel.  The whole
point of orignal question is updating kernel.

Indeed.  But if the goal is to update the host, and not the
guest, it's an acceptable method, provided you can meet the
requirements vis resources et al, and can handle the limitations
with respect to direct access to devices.  And if the workloads
in question can tolerate the drag on performance during the
migration (no matter how you shake it, there's a mandatory
blackout period where the guest is not running on either the
host or target systems).

I designed the live migration protocol used for Bhyve in the
Oxide architecture.  Minimizing that period was an explicit
design goal, but at some point you simply have to bottle up the
last bits of state from the source and move them to the
destination.

        - Dan C.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Feb 25 * Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?19Simon Clubley
19 Feb 25 `* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?18Robert A. Brooks
19 Feb 25  +* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?16Arne Vajhøj
19 Feb 25  i`* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?15Robert A. Brooks
19 Feb 25  i +* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?13Arne Vajhøj
19 Feb 25  i i+* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?6Dan Cross
20 Feb 25  i ii`* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?5Arne Vajhøj
20 Feb 25  i ii `* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?4Dan Cross
20 Feb 25  i ii  `* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?3Arne Vajhøj
20 Feb 25  i ii   `* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?2Dan Cross
20 Feb 25  i ii    `- Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?1Arne Vajhøj
20 Feb 25  i i`* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Feb 25  i i +* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?2Arne Vajhøj
20 Feb 25  i i i`- Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Feb 25  i i `* Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?3Waldek Hebisch
21 Feb 25  i i  +- Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?1Dan Cross
21 Feb 25  i i  `- Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Feb 25  i `- Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?1Stephen Hoffman
23 Feb 25  `- Re: Ksplice equivalent for VMS ?1Scott Dorsey

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