Re: Why are VSI so focused on Sweden ?

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Sujet : Re: Why are VSI so focused on Sweden ?
De : cross (at) *nospam* spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 12. Mar 2025, 16:54:00
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Organisation : PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <vqs1p9$2ka6q$2@dont-email.me>,
Simon Clubley  <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
On 2025-03-12, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
In article <vqquh9$2a8en$1@dont-email.me>,
Anonymous  <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I’m not objecting to any specific post or topic in this thread, but don’t
even people who occasionally enjoy echo chambers eventually get bored of
them?
;-)
Of course, since the earliest years of c.o.v we’ve very frequently
witnessed their formation here. Maybe more often than in the present case
(though this topic is small, historically speaking), with at least a
tendency to have a continuing sub-thread at of least somewhat c.o.v.
subject-relevant content.
>
;-)
>
You know, it's funny.  I've spent a lot of time over the last 8
years thinking about echo chambers, because it seemed so utterly
improbable that the American public could vote Donald Trump into
the presidency, not once, but twice.  Surely his obvious lying,
his transparent grifting, his shameless and lifelong tendency to
take advantage of others was so clear that no one would take him
seriously, let alone vote for him.  And yet, here we are.
>
So I have to ask myself, seriously, "do all those people see
something that I don't?"  And, "am I the one that's wrong?"
After all, how would I know if I was, in fact, living in an echo
chamber.
>
One of the things I do to make sure I never fall into this trap is to
expose myself to sources of information or viewpoints I strongly disagree
with, to make sure they don't reveal something that my normal sources of
information have "forgotten" to mention.
>
It helps you to understand what others are thinking and to help you build
a well-rounded model of reality instead of your reality been based on one
specific set of views.

This is good advice.  Fortunately (??), at the moment over here,
we have very little choice but to do this.

It would be nice if Mr Trump's supporters could do the same.

Agreed.

- Dan C.


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