Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS

Le 25/03/2025 à 23:27, Subcommandante XDelta a écrit :

On 23/03/2025 8:20 pm, gcalliet wrote:

Vous savez parler aux français. ("you know how to speak to the French").
Starting tomorrow, we'll be discussing it in the VMSgenerations working
group.
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For me, Eiffel is a benchmark. A great understanding of the art of
programming. This made Eiffel a pioneer of contract programming, for
example. And the oldest book by Bertrand Meyer (the designer of Eiffel)
on introductory computer science (in French, well before object-oriented
programming, for his company at the time) is one of the best books of
its kind I've read.
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I will do everything I can to follow your excellent suggestion.
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Gérard Calliet

 Alas, non, mon ami, I am but a probationary member of the Academie
Franglais, at best.
 I only speak English, well my sincere emulation of such: Emuglish - my
grammar and punctuation remains decidedly iffy (never got the hand of
possessive apostrophes) - however I still speak fluent DCL - the joys of
f$lexical discourse.
 VSI has it's rusted on client (and potential clients - The HP holdouts
of yore) customers of 30 years standing or more - however, I don't think
that they have had any new customers, yet, who have decided to bet their
businesses, or part of the businesses, on adopting the VSI/VMS platform.
 A modern, disciplined, application building, language such as Eiffel,
and the Eiffel studio, might perhaps encourage such a miracle, as a new
shop in the VMS ecosystem.

The term important for me is: new shop. Because you agreee by that on the great interest of having several different shops.
VMS, for example, is itself a new-shop-OS - if VSI agree about bare metal, and if so VMS is still an OS -. In our world new-shop-OS could be very cool.
If we have different shops on VMS, we get more chance to make VMS attractive. How could we do that? Open Source, Open Source, Open Source plus co-investment.
I won't be insulting, I won't pretend you haven't already understood that the scalability model we have at our disposal is clustering. :)
Gérard Calliet

 VSI/VMS + Eiffel - it has great merit.