Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base

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Sujet : Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base
De : arne (at) *nospam* vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 08. Apr 2025, 13:29:15
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On 4/8/2025 8:20 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2025-04-06, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
On 4/4/2025 2:00 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
The problem with that analysis is what DCL does.
>
It basically parses, validates, and executes commands it has been given.
That is something which can be implemented a lot more easily and concisely
in a HLL with abstracted data structure capabilities (which includes
even C) than an assembly language with no such capabilities.
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It is not obvious to me that:
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(LOC/FP for Macro-32) / (LOC/FP for C)
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is a lot higher for a shell than for the average application - data
structures are not anything special for shells.
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But maybe.
 It's a lot more complicated than that.
 For example, take a LL(1) RD parser. Even ignoring the processing
of the results from the parser, how much code (and how much effort)
do you think it would take to implement it in Macro-32 compared to C ?
Still not obvious to me that it would not follow normal LOC/FP
ratios.
Effort is a different issue. If someone said:
x1.6 LOC
x16 hours for initial write of code
x160 hours for maintenance of code
then I would consider it likely.
It has been hinted a few time that the DCL code is not easy to
understand and modify.
Arne

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1 Apr 25 * Clair Grant on VMS code base55Arne Vajhøj
1 Apr 25 +* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base5Dan Cross
1 Apr 25 i`* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base4Arne Vajhøj
1 Apr 25 i +- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Dan Cross
1 Apr 25 i `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Apr 25 i  `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Arne Vajhøj
3 Apr 25 `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base49Simon Clubley
3 Apr 25  +* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base45Arne Vajhøj
4 Apr 25  i`* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base44Simon Clubley
4 Apr 25  i +- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Rich Alderson
7 Apr 25  i `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base42Arne Vajhøj
7 Apr 25  i  +- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Arne Vajhøj
7 Apr 25  i  +* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Apr 25  i  i`* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Apr 25  i  i `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Arne Vajhøj
8 Apr 25  i  `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base37Simon Clubley
8 Apr 25  i   `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base36Arne Vajhøj
8 Apr 25  i    +- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1abrsvc
8 Apr 25  i    `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base34Simon Clubley
11 Apr 25  i     `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base33Arne Vajhøj
11 Apr 25  i      +- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Arne Vajhøj
14 Apr 25  i      `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base31Simon Clubley
14 Apr 25  i       `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base30Dave Froble
14 Apr 25  i        +* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base3Simon Clubley
16 Apr 25  i        i`* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base2Dave Froble
17 Apr 25  i        i `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Dan Cross
16 Apr 25  i        `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base26Arne Vajhøj
17 Apr 25  i         `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base25Dan Cross
17 Apr 25  i          +* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base18bill
17 Apr 25  i          i+* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base6Arne Vajhøj
17 Apr 25  i          ii`* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base5bill
17 Apr 25  i          ii +- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Arne Vajhøj
17 Apr 25  i          ii `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base3Simon Clubley
17 Apr 25  i          ii  `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base2bill
17 Apr 25  i          ii   `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Simon Clubley
17 Apr 25  i          i`* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base11Simon Clubley
17 Apr 25  i          i `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base10Arne Vajhøj
17 Apr 25  i          i  +* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base4bill
17 Apr 25  i          i  i`* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base3Arne Vajhøj
17 Apr 25  i          i  i `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base2bill
17 Apr 25  i          i  i  `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Arne Vajhøj
18 Apr 25  i          i  `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Apr 25  i          i   +* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base3Arne Vajhøj
18 Apr 25  i          i   i+- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Apr 25  i          i   i`- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Waldek Hebisch
19 Apr 25  i          i   `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Waldek Hebisch
17 Apr 25  i          +* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base4Arne Vajhøj
17 Apr 25  i          i`* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base3Dan Cross
18 Apr 25  i          i `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base2Dave Froble
18 Apr 25  i          i  `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Dan Cross
17 Apr 25  i          `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base2Arne Vajhøj
17 Apr 25  i           `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Dan Cross
9 Apr 25  `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base3John Reagan
9 Apr 25   `* Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Apr 25    `- Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base1Arne Vajhøj

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