Re: Upcoming time boundary events

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Sujet : Re: Upcoming time boundary events
De : marc.gr.vandyck (at) *nospam* invalid.skynet.be (Marc Van Dyck)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 31. May 2025, 11:23:46
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Arne Vajhøj laid this down on his screen :
On 5/27/2025 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2025-05-23, Robert A. Brooks <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> wrote:
On 5/23/2025 14:11, Simon Clubley wrote:
The details are vague since it's been several years since I looked at
DECnet Phase IV, but there's a signed integer delta date field somewhere
in DECnet Phase IV (from a base date offset) that overflowed, at least
if you followed the spec, in 2021 (IIRC). I do remember that VMS treated
it as an unsigned integer, hence VMS wasn't affected.
>
I _think_ it was in EVL, but I can't be sure now.
   I fixed that one; it'll be good until my 100th birthday.
>
 $ set response/mode=good_natured
 I wonder if people will have stopped using DECnet Phase IV by then ? :-)
>
My impression is that:
* people are now preferring IV over V, because people only
   need IV functionality and IV is simpler
* people does not use DECnet that much today, but often enough
   that they still prefer to have it installed
* usage is almost entirely:
   - $ SET HOST
   - RMS file specs
   - task-to-task (for those running OSU HTTPD or something else
     requiring it)
>
Arne
From what I can see from this side of the pond, everyone uses DECnet
phase V exclusively with TCP/IP transport, so that any network gear can
be used, without having the network people involved.
Other advantage is that most OPenVMS installations today are used in
environments that must be certified, and external audit people usually
know nothing about DECnet. They are mostly just interested in which IP
ports are opened. Since for DECnet you just need a few, it's easily
justified. They couldn't be possibly bothered about what DECnet object
is enabled. They will complain about rlogin or telnet, but see nothing
wrong with set host. FTP ? God forbid. But FAL ? just fine... You can't
imagine how easy it was for me to get OpenVMS systems pass audits with
flying colors, while my open systems colleagues suffered...
--
Marc Van Dyck

Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 May 25 * Upcoming time boundary events107Simon Clubley
19 May 25 +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events4Arne Vajhøj
19 May 25 i+* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Chris Townley
19 May 25 ii`- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Chris Townley
20 May 25 i`- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 May 25 `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events102Stephen Hoffman
23 May 25  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events101Simon Clubley
23 May 25   `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events100Robert A. Brooks
27 May 25    `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events99Simon Clubley
28 May 25     +- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Dan Cross
29 May 25     +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events61bill
29 May 25     i+* Re: Upcoming time boundary events11Simon Clubley
29 May 25     ii+* Re: Upcoming time boundary events7David Wade
30 May 25     iii`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events6Simon Clubley
30 May 25     iii `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events5Arne Vajhøj
30 May 25     iii  +- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jun 25     iii  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Simon Clubley
2 Jun 25     iii   `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Arne Vajhøj
3 Jun 25     iii    `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 May 25     ii+* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2bill
30 May 25     iii`- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Dan Cross
30 May 25     ii`- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Dave Froble
29 May 25     i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events49jayjwa
30 May 25     i `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events48bill
30 May 25     i  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events47Marc Van Dyck
30 May 25     i   +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Simon Clubley
30 May 25     i   i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i   i `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Simon Clubley
30 May 25     i   +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events13Arne Vajhøj
31 May 25     i   i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events12Marc Van Dyck
31 May 25     i   i +- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1bill
31 May 25     i   i +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events9Arne Vajhøj
31 May 25     i   i i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events8Chris Townley
31 May 25     i   i i `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events7Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i   i i  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events6Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i   i i   +- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Jun 25     i   i i   `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events4Stephen Hoffman
15 Jun 25     i   i i    `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 Jun 25     i   i i     `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Arne Vajhøj
15 Jun 25     i   i i      `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jun 25     i   i `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Simon Clubley
30 May 25     i   `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events30Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jun 25     i    +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events18Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i    i+- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i    i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jun 25     i    i +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events12Marc Van Dyck
2 Jun 25     i    i i+- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1JKB
2 Jun 25     i    i i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events10Dan Cross
2 Jun 25     i    i i `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events9Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i    i i  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events8Dan Cross
2 Jun 25     i    i i   `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events7Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i    i i    +- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i    i i    `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events5Dan Cross
2 Jun 25     i    i i     `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events4Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25     i    i i      `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Dan Cross
2 Jun 25     i    i i       `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Arne Vajhøj
3 Jun 25     i    i i        `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Dan Cross
2 Jun 25     i    i `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Arne Vajhøj
3 Jun 25     i    i  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 25     i    i   `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Arne Vajhøj
8 Jun 25     i    `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events11chrisq
9 Jun 25     i     `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jun 25     i      `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events9chrisq
9 Jun 25     i       `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Jun 25     i        `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events7chrisq
10 Jun 25     i         +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events5Arne Vajhøj
10 Jun 25     i         i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events4chrisq
11 Jun 25     i         i `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Jun 25     i         i  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Simon Clubley
12 Jun 25     i         i   `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Dan Cross
11 Jun 25     i         `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 May 25     `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events36Arne Vajhøj
31 May 25      `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events35Marc Van Dyck
31 May 25       +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events31Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25       i+* Re: Upcoming time boundary events26Marc Van Dyck
2 Jun 25       ii+* Re: Upcoming time boundary events20Marc Van Dyck
2 Jun 25       iii`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events19Arne Vajhøj
3 Jun 25       iii `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events18Marc Van Dyck
4 Jun 25       iii  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events17Marc Van Dyck
4 Jun 25       iii   `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jun 25       iii    +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events6Marc Van Dyck
5 Jun 25       iii    i+* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Arne Vajhøj
6 Jun 25       iii    ii`- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Marc Van Dyck
6 Jun 25       iii    i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jun 25       iii    i `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25       iii    i  `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Dan Cross
5 Jun 25       iii    `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events9Dave Froble
5 Jun 25       iii     +* Re: Upcoming time boundary events6bill
5 Jun 25       iii     i+- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Chris Townley
5 Jun 25       iii     i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events4Arne Vajhøj
6 Jun 25       iii     i `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Jun 25       iii     i  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Arne Vajhøj
15 Jun 25       iii     i   `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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8 Jun 25       iii      `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jun 25       ii`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events5Arne Vajhøj
2 Jun 25       ii +- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Arne Vajhøj
3 Jun 25       ii `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Marc Van Dyck
3 Jun 25       ii  `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Arne Vajhøj
4 Jun 25       ii   `- Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Marc Van Dyck
2 Jun 25       i`* Re: Upcoming time boundary events4Simon Clubley
31 May 25       `* Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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