Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events

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Sujet : Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 23. Jun 2025, 01:35:55
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:47:08 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:

Systemd increases complexity ...

No it doesn’t. It simplifies service management, which is why it has
become so popular. Think of how easy it makes it, not just to write your
own service configuration, but to customize an existing one, without
having to rewrite the whole thing. Compare that with the boilerplate-
ridden blob that is your typical sysvinit script.

Microsoft probably does not care much about Linux kernel.

Yes it does, actually, given it has started including it as an option in
Windows installations. I think for its “AI workstation” configuration, a
Linux kernel is even mandatory.

Similarly, if Microsoft decieded to replace its kernel by Linux
kernel Windows would be as proprietary as it is now.

But the Linux kernel is under the GPL. Any code that derives from it must
also be licensed under the GPL.

And fact that Linux kernel is GPL and shipped as part of WSL
does not change fact that Windows is proprietary.

But using it to replace the Windows kernel would change that fact.

It is hard to say what _exactly_ Miscrosoft will do, they have many
possibilities.

It’s quite easy to see where the path of least resistance lies: it lies in
gradually abandoning that unmaintainable hot mess that the Windows kernel
has become, and moving to taking more advantage of Linux.

Historically, grassroot contributions where important to Linux.  And
they were possible because of limited complexity and presence of
advanced users.  But deskilling of system administration and growing
opacity of system is going to limit this.

Speak for yourself. That may be true in the proprietary platforms, which
discourage users from peeking and poking around; the Free Software world
not only encourages that, it relies on it.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Jun 25 * Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events25Simon Clubley
17 Jun 25 +* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events19chrisq
17 Jun 25 i`* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events18Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Jun 25 i +* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events13chrisq
19 Jun 25 i i+* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Jun 25 i ii+* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Arne Vajhøj
19 Jun 25 i iii+- Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Jun 25 i iii`- Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Simon Clubley
19 Jun 25 i ii`* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events3chrisq
19 Jun 25 i ii `* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Jun 25 i ii  `- Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Simon Clubley
19 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events5Arne Vajhøj
19 Jun 25 i i `* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events4chrisq
19 Jun 25 i i  +- Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Jun 25 i i  `* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Arne Vajhøj
19 Jun 25 i i   `- Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Jun 25 i `* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events4Waldek Hebisch
21 Jun 25 i  `* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jun 25 i   `* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Waldek Hebisch
23 Jun 25 i    `- Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Jun 25 `* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events5Richard
18 Jun 25  +* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events3Chris Townley
18 Jun 25  i`* Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events2Richard
19 Jun 25  i `- Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Rich Alderson
19 Jun 25  `- Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events1Simon Clubley

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