Re: VMS x86-64 database server

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Sujet : Re: VMS x86-64 database server
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 07. Jul 2025, 23:07:13
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 14:07:31 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:

Embedded SQL is a thing or was a thing 30-40-50 years ago.
 
Basically you write source code with SQL statements prefixed by EXEC
SQL, put it through a pre-compiler to get valid code in whatever
language (Cobol, PL/I, C or whatever).

OK, so it was a horrible nonstandard hack invented for programming
languages like COBOL, which didn’t have the best ability to deal with
dynamic strings, to make it easier for them to compose SQL statements.

And the horribleness of it is reinforced by your statement that you need
server-side cursors in the DBMS to make this hack a little less difficult
to work with.

Not sure why it would be needed for PL/I, or even C.

I’ve pointed out before, the irony of COBOL being designed strictly for
“business” needs, yet within a couple of decades of its widespread
adoption, SQL databases became an important “business” need, but the best
way of interfacing to them (using dynamic string manipulation mechanisms)
had been omitted from COBOL because it wasn’t seen as a “business” need.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Jul20:45 * VMS x86-64 database server56Arne Vajhøj
6 Jul22:39 +- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul23:07 +* Re: VMS x86-64 database server30Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul00:19 i`* Re: VMS x86-64 database server29Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jul00:58 i `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server28Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul03:42 i  `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server27Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jul19:07 i   `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server26Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul19:16 i    +* Re: VMS x86-64 database server2Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul19:21 i    i`- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul23:07 i    `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server23Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jul00:28 i     +* Re: VMS x86-64 database server12Arne Vajhøj
8 Jul01:26 i     i`* Re: VMS x86-64 database server11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jul13:45 i     i `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server10Arne Vajhøj
8 Jul22:57 i     i  `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jul23:40 i     i   `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server8Arne Vajhøj
9 Jul00:38 i     i    `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jul02:54 i     i     `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server6Arne Vajhøj
9 Jul08:25 i     i      `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jul20:33 i     i       `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server4Arne Vajhøj
10 Jul00:07 i     i        `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Jul00:51 i     i         `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server2Arne Vajhøj
10 Jul02:21 i     i          `- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jul14:35 i     `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server10Arne Vajhøj
8 Jul22:56 i      `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jul23:20 i       `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server8Arne Vajhøj
9 Jul00:37 i        `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jul01:31 i         `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server6Arne Vajhøj
9 Jul08:22 i          `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Jul01:04 i           `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server4Arne Vajhøj
10 Jul01:25 i            +* Re: VMS x86-64 database server2Arne Vajhøj
10 Jul02:35 i            i`- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Jul02:33 i            `- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul23:11 +- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Arne Vajhøj
6 Jul23:39 `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server23Craig A. Berry
7 Jul00:57  `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server22Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul15:50   `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server21Mark Berryman
7 Jul19:01    `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server20Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul22:06     `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server19Mark Berryman
7 Jul22:36      +* Re: VMS x86-64 database server2Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul22:37      i`- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Arne Vajhøj
7 Jul23:08      `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jul00:21       `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server15Arne Vajhøj
8 Jul01:27        `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server14Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jul12:14         `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server13Arne Vajhøj
8 Jul22:58          `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jul23:14           +* Re: VMS x86-64 database server10Arne Vajhøj
9 Jul00:40           i`* Re: VMS x86-64 database server9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jul03:18           i `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server8Arne Vajhøj
9 Jul08:27           i  +- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jul11:16           i  `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server6hb0815
9 Jul15:13           i   `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server5Arne Vajhøj
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9 Jul18:39           i     `* Re: VMS x86-64 database server3Arne Vajhøj
9 Jul18:56           i      +- Re: VMS x86-64 database server1Chris Townley
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