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Sujet : Re: Bootcamp
De : arne (at) *nospam* vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 13. Jul 2025, 03:32:38
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Organisation : SunSITE.dk - Supporting Open source
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On 7/12/2025 7:52 PM, bill wrote:
On 7/12/2025 1:42 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 7/12/2025 1:26 PM, bill wrote:
On 7/12/2025 11:13 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
So again again if you rewrite an application, then you want
to change that logic instead of doing the 1:1 conversion.
>
And this, of course, is where we disagree.  You see rewrites as
normal and the best way to go.  I see them as usually a waste of
time being called on for the wrong reasons.  Because your peers
at a conference laugh at your legacy system is no reason to rewrite
it.  (And, yes, I have seen senior management want to make major
and often ridiculous changes based on something their peers said
over lunch at a conference!!)
>
There is a whole discipline dedicated to determining
if, when and how to modernize IT systems.
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But mistakes are made.
>
Some systems are attempted to be modernized even though they should not.
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Some systems are kept even though they should have been modernized.
 It's funny to see someone say that here. The whole IT world has been
saying that about VMS for a very long time.  I would have thought here
was the last bastion of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Based on previous discussions then there are several "If it ain't
broke, don't fix it." people here.
But I do not consider myself one of them.
You evaluate benefits, cost and risk of upgrade projects
and decide based on that analysis.
And long term it is not so much a question about IF but more
a question about WHEN and HOW. Is it now or in 3 years or in
10 years? Just add functionality or rewrite some old parts
or rewrite everything?

The second is probably more common than the first.
 "Being common" .NE. "right" .OR. "even necessarily a good idea".
I don't see how one mistake being more common than another
mistake relates to right or good idea.
Arne

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 May 25 * Bootcamp65Arne Vajhøj
21 May 25 +* Re: Bootcamp5Robert A. Brooks
21 May 25 i+* Re: Bootcamp2David Meyer
22 May 25 ii`- Re: Bootcamp1Subcommandante XDelta
23 May 25 i+- Re: Bootcamp1Stephen Hoffman
3 Jun 25 i`- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
3 Jun 25 +* Re: Bootcamp4Arne Vajhøj
6 Jun 25 i`* Re: Bootcamp3Craig A. Berry
6 Jun 25 i `* Re: Bootcamp2Arne Vajhøj
6 Jun 25 i  `- Re: Bootcamp1Craig A. Berry
7 Jun 25 `* Re: Bootcamp55Subcommandante XDelta
7 Jun 25  +* Re: Bootcamp17Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 25  i`* Re: Bootcamp16Arne Vajhøj
9 Jun 25  i `* Re: Bootcamp15Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25  i  +- Re: Bootcamp1Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25  i  +* Re: Bootcamp8Dan Cross
9 Jun 25  i  i+* Re: Bootcamp2Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25  i  ii`- Re: Bootcamp1Dan Cross
9 Jun 25  i  i`* Re: Bootcamp5Arne Vajhøj
9 Jun 25  i  i +- Re: Bootcamp1Dan Cross
9 Jun 25  i  i +* Re: Bootcamp2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jun 25  i  i i`- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
10 Jun 25  i  i `- Re: Bootcamp1Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25  i  `* Re: Bootcamp5Arne Vajhøj
9 Jun 25  i   +* Re: Bootcamp2Robert A. Brooks
9 Jun 25  i   i`- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
9 Jun 25  i   +- Re: Bootcamp1Chris Townley
10 Jun 25  i   `- Re: Bootcamp1Simon Clubley
1 Jul 25  `* Re: Bootcamp37gcalliet
1 Jul 25   +* Re: Bootcamp4Simon Clubley
2 Jul 25   i`* Re: Bootcamp3gcalliet
2 Jul 25   i +- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
2 Jul 25   i `- Re: Bootcamp1Simon Clubley
2 Jul 25   `* Re: Bootcamp32Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jul 25    `* Re: Bootcamp31gcalliet
3 Jul 25     `* Re: Bootcamp30Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jul 25      `* Re: Bootcamp29Arne Vajhøj
3 Jul 25       +* Re: Bootcamp3Dan Cross
3 Jul 25       i`* OS emulation [was Re: Bootcamp]2Rich Alderson
3 Jul 25       i `- Re: OS emulation [was Re: Bootcamp]1Dan Cross
3 Jul 25       +* Re: Bootcamp2bill
3 Jul 25       i`- Re: Bootcamp1Chris Townley
3 Jul 25       `* Re: Bootcamp23Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jul 25        +* Re: Bootcamp2Arne Vajhøj
4 Jul 25        i`- Re: Bootcamp1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul 25        `* Re: Bootcamp20Waldek Hebisch
6 Jul 25         +* Re: Bootcamp16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul 25         i`* Re: Bootcamp15Waldek Hebisch
6 Jul 25         i +- Re: Bootcamp1bill
6 Jul 25         i +- Re: Bootcamp1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Jul 25         i `* Re: Bootcamp12Stephen Hoffman
11 Jul 25         i  +- Re: Bootcamp1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Jul 25         i  `* Re: Bootcamp10Arne Vajhøj
12 Jul 25         i   `* Re: Bootcamp9bill
12 Jul 25         i    `* Re: Bootcamp8Arne Vajhøj
12 Jul 25         i     `* Re: Bootcamp7bill
12 Jul 25         i      +* Re: Bootcamp5Arne Vajhøj
12 Jul 25         i      i`* Re: Bootcamp4bill
12 Jul 25         i      i `* Re: Bootcamp3Arne Vajhøj
13 Jul 25         i      i  `* Re: Bootcamp2bill
13 Jul 25         i      i   `- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
14 Jul 25         i      `- Re: Bootcamp1Dan Cross
6 Jul 25         +- Re: Bootcamp1bill
11 Jul 25         `* Re: Bootcamp2Stephen Hoffman
11 Jul 25          `- Re: Bootcamp1Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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