Re: No Country for Old System Administrators

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Sujet : Re: No Country for Old System Administrators
De : arne (at) *nospam* vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 03. May 2026, 16:53:38
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On 5/3/2026 8:59 AM, bill wrote:
On 5/3/2026 2:45 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 3 May 2026 11:25:00 +1000, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
With $1 Cyberattacks on the Rise, Durable Defenses Pay Off Writing
memory-safe code beats patching your way to safety
>
Rust seems to be the language du jour for tackling this problem.
>
Google reported a significant decrease in memory-related bugs after
adopting Rust into the Android code base in a major way. Though,
oddly, not a decrease in bugs overall ...
 There was memory safe C 40 years ago.  No one was interested.
You have mentioned that thing many times.
But it is a rather incomplete story.
Was it a C with array bound checking or was it a
memory safe C? Memory safety is more than array
bound checking.
Was it a good compiler? A good concept with a bad
implementation will not succeed. Compiler bugs and/or
poor optimization can kill the best compiler ideas.
Did it have the commercial support needed to succeed
in the market? Even technical good products need to
be advertised to the right audience at the right price.
We know it did not fail because developers do not want
memory safety. Memory safe languages are used in the vast
majority of code written today (Python, JavaScript, Java,
C# and PHP usage far outnumber C and C++ usage today).
Arne

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 May 26 * No Country for Old System Administrators44Subcommandante XDelta
3 May 26 +* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators3Arne Vajhøj
3 May 26 i+- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Lawrence D’Oliveiro
4 May 26 i`- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Dan Cross
3 May 26 `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators40Lawrence D’Oliveiro
3 May 26  +* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators30bill
3 May 26  i+- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Arne Vajhøj
3 May 26  i+* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators27Scott Dorsey
3 May 26  ii+* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators8Arne Vajhøj
4 May 26  iii`* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators7Scott Dorsey
4 May 26  iii `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators6Arne Vajhøj
4 May 26  iii  `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators5Lawrence D’Oliveiro
4 May 26  iii   +* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators2Scott Dorsey
4 May 26  iii   i`- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Arne Vajhøj
4 May 26  iii   `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators2Arne Vajhøj
4 May 26  iii    `- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Arne Vajhøj
4 May 26  ii+- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Dan Cross
5 May 26  ii`* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators17Simon Clubley
5 May 26  ii `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators16Scott Dorsey
5 May 26  ii  `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators15Arne Vajhøj
5 May 26  ii   +* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators13Lawrence D’Oliveiro
5 May 26  ii   i+* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators10Arne Vajhøj
6 May 26  ii   ii+* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators8Lawrence D’Oliveiro
6 May 26  ii   iii+- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Arne Vajhøj
6 May 26  ii   iii`* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators6Arne Vajhøj
6 May 26  ii   iii +* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators2Scott Dorsey
6 May 26  ii   iii i`- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Arne Vajhøj
6 May 26  ii   iii `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators3Lawrence D’Oliveiro
6 May 26  ii   iii  `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators2Arne Vajhøj
6 May 26  ii   iii   `- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Lawrence D’Oliveiro
6 May 26  ii   ii`- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Dan Cross
6 May 26  ii   i`* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators2Simon Clubley
6 May 26  ii   i `- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Dan Cross
6 May 26  ii   `- New language features1Simon Clubley
5 May 26  i`- Safer programming languages1Simon Clubley
3 May 26  +- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Arne Vajhøj
5 May 26  `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators8Simon Clubley
5 May 26   `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators7Dan Cross
6 May 26    `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators6Arne Vajhøj
6 May 26     `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators5Dan Cross
7 May 26      `* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators4Dennis Boone
7 May 26       +* Re: No Country for Old System Administrators2Simon Clubley
7 May 26       i`- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Dan Cross
7 May 26       `- Re: No Country for Old System Administrators1Dan Cross

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