Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?

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De : spallshurgenson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Spalls Hurgenson)
Groupes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
Date : 04. May 2025, 15:07:48
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On Sun, 4 May 2025 09:32:40 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

On 02/05/2025 15:58, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Well, I can't speak specifically to the Speccy. It wasn't my device of
choice and I've very little familiarity with its software. But a lot
of the ports to PC and Apple (where I did have familiarity) did suffer
from the problem. There were, of course, exceptions but even in games
like "Zork" you could sense this underlying philosophy; make things as
hard as possible for the player to extend the duration of the game.
>
I tend to agree. With their limitations there was only so much content
you could put in so if you knew exactly what to do you could
play-through a game in a few hours or so. As you say to increase the
actual game time the easiest option is just make it hard to know exactly
what you had to do.
>
I remember some of the early text adventures and you could easily spend
half-an-hour working out just how to get past a problem. Then there was
Manic Miner with it with its massive single screen level count of
twenty. I spent many hours playing that but I never got past probably
level fourteen or fifteen.
>

And yet... the games WERE fun, weren't they? Because for all that I
point out the foibles of early game design, I never want to imply that
we didn't have a blast with them, or that they weren't well-made
games.

Just that they reflect a different design philosophy and I think that
modern games (mostly) use a better one. But it's this conflict --as
well as various technical issues, not the least being the god-awful
controls of yesterday's games-- that makes it hard to enjoy a lot of
these older titles. And it makes the few exceptions all the more
impressive when they --despite their eye-gouging visuals, ear-bleeding
beeps, hand-cramping controls and ruthlessly antagonistic mechanics--
still manage to hold up as good games to this day.

It's one of the reasons I dislike modern 'retro' games in general,
because they are aping the form without realizing it's not the
pixelated graphics/etc. which made these classics so beloved. We love
them DESPITE those limitations. We love them because they SURPASSED
those limitations. Just slapping on a veneer of retroism is a lazy
appeal to nostalgia without an understanding as to why we're nostalgic
in the first place.





Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 May 25 * What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?26Spalls Hurgenson
1 May 25 +* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?10JAB
1 May 25 i+* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?7Spalls Hurgenson
1 May 25 ii`* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?6JAB
2 May 25 ii `* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?5Spalls Hurgenson
4 May 25 ii  `* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?4JAB
4 May 25 ii   `* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?3Spalls Hurgenson
6 May 25 ii    +- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1JAB
7 May 25 ii    `- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1candycanearter07
5 May 25 i`* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?2Anssi Saari
5 May 25 i `- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1JAB
1 May 25 +* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?4Justisaur
1 May 25 i+* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?2Spalls Hurgenson
3 May 25 ii`- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1Justisaur
3 May 25 i`- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1Justisaur
1 May 25 +- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1JAB
1 May 25 +* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?6Mr Rob
1 May 25 i+- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1JAB
2 May 25 i`* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?4Borax Man
3 May 25 i `* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?3Mr Rob
4 May 25 i  `* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?2Spalls Hurgenson
5 May 25 i   `- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1Mr Rob
2 May 25 +* Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?2Ant
5 May 25 i`- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1Justisaur
5 May 25 +- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1Anssi Saari
5 May 25 `- Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN APRIL 2025?1H1M3M

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