Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling

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Sujet : Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling
De : zaghadka (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (Zaghadka)
Groupes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
Date : 31. Dec 2024, 00:15:32
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 00:24:01 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
>
>
While it's great fun to point fingers at Epic, or Microsoft, at EA or
Activision for their scummy, quasi-legal behaviors, let's not also
forget that the darling of the PC Gaming industry, Valve, is neck-deep
in supporting not only gambling, but underage gambling.
>
A huge chunk of Valve's income derives from selling lootbox items used
as 'tokens' by gambling websites, and the company turns a blind eye to
the practice even as it rakes in billions. Its uses psychologically
manipulative practices to ensnare its victims, and uses the same shady
tactics as other gambling companies to find loopholes that keep it
(just barely) on the right side of the law (and sometimes not even
then).
>
If they sell "lootbox" items used as "tokens" on gambling sites, isn't
it the gambling sites responsibility to not have underaged people on
their sites?
>
If they can't use the tokens, the underaged won't buy them.
>
If some bar does a weird promotion, like bring in a rose, get a free
beer, you gonna blame the florist for an underaged kid buying a rose and
trading it for beer?
>
Not illegal to buy a rose, or sell one, the bar is committing the
illegal act by trading a kid a beer for that rose.
>
Assign the blame where it belongs, with the gambling sites that are not
keeping underaged gamblers off their sites.
>
Did you see the part where the guy bought a Steam Deck without ever
leaving Steam? It may be a loophole that games are not physical purchased
goods (technically you are purchasing a license), but that Deck may be a
real problem for Valve if they continue to let it be bought in that way.
It's real. It can be sold for real money. No need to regulate anyone. A
12 yo can sell a Deck.

That kid just cashed out. Virtual currency for real product, giving the
virutal currency value, which means you're spinning an RNG for some kind
of random compensation. Since letting people cash out is what apparently
defines gambling, I think Gabe may have f-ed up with his shell game.

--
Zag

This is csipg.rpg - reality is off topic. ...G. Quinn ('08)

Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Dec 24 * Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling22Spalls Hurgenson
29 Dec 24 +- Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling1Dimensional Traveler
30 Dec 24 `* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling20Xocyll
30 Dec 24  +* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling3JAB
30 Dec 24  i`* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling2Spalls Hurgenson
30 Dec 24  i `- Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling1JAB
31 Dec 24  `* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling16Zaghadka
31 Dec 24   +* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling7Xocyll
31 Dec 24   i+* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling4Zaghadka
1 Jan 25   ii`* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling3Xocyll
1 Jan 25   ii `* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling2Justisaur
1 Jan 25   ii  `- Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling1Xocyll
2 Jan 25   i`* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling2JAB
2 Jan 25   i `- Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling1Xocyll
2 Jan 25   `* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling8JAB
2 Jan 25    +* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling6Xocyll
2 Jan 25    i`* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling5Zaghadka
2 Jan 25    i `* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling4Xocyll
4 Jan 25    i  `* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling3Zaghadka
5 Jan 25    i   `* Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling2JAB
5 Jan 25    i    `- Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling1Xocyll
2 Jan 25    `- Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling1Zaghadka

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