Re: What is pay-to-win?

On 31/03/2024 16:12, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

Personally I think, could be wrong of course, that was quite deliberate
to show that what people consider pay to win has a wide variation and
that's why they tried to cut it up into a scale.

No, I get that... but broadening it that vastly maes the definition
makes the definiton worthless. It's just too expansive, almost to the
point of "blue is a color therefore all colors are blue" sort of
thing.
 There are serious problems with how microtransactions have infested
games, but I don't think it helps to categorize them all as pay-to-win
rather than breaking them down into more narrow categories. It leads
to people attributing 'pay-to-win' tags to "Elder Scroll: Oblivion",
and then that game gets ignored by people who want nothing to do with
pay-to-win games.

The other one that wouldn't surprise me is that as a content creator they realised that making yet another video on MTX wouldn't create as many clicks/visibility as Pay-To-Win. It's something I've seen a few CC's complain about. One in particular pretty much said that they were given up on the channel as what they wanted to make was videos about less well know TT Fantasy/Sci-Fi wargames but that didn't pay the bills. What did was WH40K. They showed some viewing figures for one vs. the other and these weren't minor differences.
Anyway back to the subject in hand. I agree that the overall problem is actually MTX and p2w is just one aspect of it. It really has done some awful damage, IMHO, to the gaming market in the bigger budget space. I pretty much avoid it totally now as I think it's taking the pee to expect you to pay full price for game only to expect you to pay even more if you want to, you know enjoy the game. The other thing that annoys me is the devs./publishers know exactly what they are doing but pretend that this is somehow good for gamers. Oh we have an in-game currency purely for your convenience, no you have it as it helps create a disconnect between how much you're actually spending.