Re: They're Making A New Doom

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Date : 11. Jun 2024, 17:05:43
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On 6/11/24 12:29, Rin Stowleigh wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 20:56:36 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:
 
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:34:55 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
Just be sure it has good MIDI. FM MIDI sucks. ;)
>
I may not be a fan of DOOM but I like the soundtrack. I have the
Roland SC-55 midi version in my collection. I agree, FM midi sucks.
 You guys are cracking me up.
 Not sure if you realize that at least half of all the best selling
commercial music of the 1980s that utilized synthesizers made
extensive use of FM synthesis in combination with MIDI?
 (There isn't really such a thing as "FM MIDI"... Frequency Modulation
(FM) is the method of synthesis, and has nothing to do with the note
data (MIDI) that plays the sound).
 I'm assuming here what you're discussing that sucks is likely the
sonic characteristics of specific sound cards or devices that just
happened to be based on FM?  Yes some of those can sound tinny but
that is not necessarily a characteristic of Frequency Modulation as a
synthesis method.
 Also, many of the warmest/richest sounding subtractive analog
synthesizers can do FM.  This only refers to modulating one oscillator
with another, effectively establishing the carrier/modulator
relationship that FM synths are based on.
 By default and if the sound designer doesn't know what they are doing,
or if the signal path is crap, FM sounds can be harsh and metallic
sounding.
 Listen to the pad that comes in at about 11 seconds in.  A Yamaha DX7
(FM synth) was used for this:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RUIeX6UCT8
This guy synths :)
Great post.
I've been using FM synths for some decades (Yamaha TX7, DX21, DX7) and in the right hands, can sound wonderful.
Even OPL can sound great (Monkey Island, Dune 2, Tyrian, etc)
Cheers

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Jun 24 * They're Making A New Doom37Spalls Hurgenson
10 Jun 24 +* Re: They're Making A New Doom23Justisaur
10 Jun 24 i+* Re: They're Making A New Doom21JAB
10 Jun 24 ii+* Re: They're Making A New Doom10Werner P.
10 Jun 24 iii`* Re: They're Making A New Doom9Sandro Santos
11 Jun 24 iii +* Re: They're Making A New Doom6Spalls Hurgenson
11 Jun 24 iii i`* Re: They're Making A New Doom5JAB
12 Jun 24 iii i `* Re: They're Making A New Doom4Spalls Hurgenson
12 Jun 24 iii i  `* Re: They're Making A New Doom3JAB
13 Jun 24 iii i   `* Re: They're Making A New Doom2Werner P.
14 Jun 24 iii i    `- Re: They're Making A New Doom1JAB
11 Jun 24 iii `* Re: They're Making A New Doom2Justisaur
11 Jun 24 iii  `- Re: They're Making A New Doom1Spalls Hurgenson
10 Jun 24 ii`* Re: They're Making A New Doom10rms
10 Jun 24 ii `* Re: They're Making A New Doom9Ant
11 Jun 24 ii  `* Re: They're Making A New Doom8Rin Stowleigh
11 Jun 24 ii   +* Re: They're Making A New Doom6Sandro Santos
12 Jun 24 ii   i`* Re: They're Making A New Doom5Rin Stowleigh
12 Jun 24 ii   i `* MIDI (was Re: They're Making A New Doom)4Ant
12 Jun 24 ii   i  `* Re: MIDI (was Re: They're Making A New Doom)3Spalls Hurgenson
12 Jun 24 ii   i   `* Re: MIDI (was Re: They're Making A New Doom)2Anssi Saari
13 Jun 24 ii   i    `- Re: MIDI (was Re: They're Making A New Doom)1Spalls Hurgenson
12 Jun 24 ii   `- Re: They're Making A New Doom1Rin Stowleigh
12 Jun 24 i`- Re: They're Making A New Doom1Spalls Hurgenson
10 Jun 24 `* Re: They're Making A New Doom13Werner P.
10 Jun 24  +* Re: They're Making A New Doom8Werner P.
10 Jun 24  i+* Re: They're Making A New Doom5Ant
11 Jun 24  ii+* Re: They're Making A New Doom3Spalls Hurgenson
11 Jun 24  iii`* Re: They're Making A New Doom2Justisaur
11 Jun 24  iii `- Re: They're Making A New Doom1Spalls Hurgenson
11 Jun 24  ii`- Re: They're Making A New Doom1Xocyll
11 Jun 24  i`* Re: They're Making A New Doom2Xocyll
11 Jun 24  i `- Re: They're Making A New Doom1Ant
11 Jun 24  `* Re: They're Making A New Doom4Spalls Hurgenson
11 Jun 24   +* Re: They're Making A New Doom2Xocyll
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