Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.

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Sujet : Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.
De : dtravel (at) *nospam* sonic.net (Dimensional Traveler)
Groupes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
Date : 07. May 2024, 01:55:14
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On 5/6/2024 9:42 AM, Justisaur wrote:
On 5/6/2024 9:18 AM, Justisaur wrote:
On 5/5/2024 8:20 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Sat, 4 May 2024 09:19:16 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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On 5/3/2024 11:43 AM, Justisaur wrote:
Helldivers 2 was looking like a pretty good squad Co-op game, I was
somewhat interested, but so many things to play, not enough time.  It
won't affect me if I were to play it, but there's regions where it was
sold that the PSN isn't available.
>
***** UPDATE! SONY GASLIGHTS CUSTOMERS! *****
>
Sony and Arrowhead (the dev) were saying that the fact it wasn't
required was due to a 'server issue' and it was communicated that it was
a temporary thing.  However screenshots of the requirements from other
countries where PSN isn't available show it says that PSN is "optional."
  Presumably they haven't updated all their requirements for all the
foreign pages yet.
>
They've been caught in a bold faced lie and gaslighting.  The review
bombing has greatly increased after this was found and now Helldivers 2
has been dragged down to 'mixed' for all time reviews.  I'm not sure if
this will have any real legal repercussions due to the usual "subject to
change at any time" clauses present everywhere, and Japan's corrupt
legal system's favoritism.
>
Update to the Update!!!!
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Helldivers 2 has been delisted from Steam in 177 territories*, and -
according to reports - Steam is offering refunds on the game far past
it's usual 2-hour limit.
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* read here:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/helldivers-2/steam-delisting
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I'd love to believe this is Valve taking the side of the end-user, but
more likely it is more a response against Sony trying to push gamers
towards its competing PSN network. Sony wants to onboard people on
PSN, because once they have an account there, they are far, far, FAR
more likely to make future purchases on that network. Valve,
obviously, doesn't want this. They don't want people to even be aware
of the competition. They want all purchases to be through Steam.
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This isn't Valve being on the side of gamers. It's a warning shot to
Sony.
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Update the Third!!!!
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Sony has removed the requirement for those playing on playstation that are outside of PSN countries (which no one seemed to realize what even a thing.)  They're working on what to do with PC/Steam whatever that means.
>
 Apperantly I completely misread that, they are dropping the requirement for the Steam PSN requrement.  I got confused about the bit where they're still learning what's best for PC. Here's their announcement:
 "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward.
 We’re still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable. Thanks again for your continued support of Helldivers 2 and we’ll keep you updated on future plans."
 
"What's best for us as customers is to not get shafted by companies we buy from."
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 May 24 * Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.25Justisaur
3 May 24 +* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.6Spalls Hurgenson
4 May 24 i`* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.5Justisaur
4 May 24 i `* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.4Spalls Hurgenson
4 May 24 i  `* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.3Dimensional Traveler
4 May 24 i   `* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.2Ant
5 May 24 i    `- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1candycanearter07
4 May 24 +- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1Dimensional Traveler
4 May 24 +* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.3JAB
4 May 24 i`* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.2Spalls Hurgenson
5 May 24 i `- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1JAB
4 May 24 `* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.14Justisaur
5 May 24  +- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1candycanearter07
5 May 24  +* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.11Spalls Hurgenson
5 May 24  i+* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.2Justisaur
6 May 24  ii`- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1Werner P.
6 May 24  i`* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.8Justisaur
6 May 24  i +* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.2Justisaur
7 May 24  i i`- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1Dimensional Traveler
6 May 24  i `* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.5Spalls Hurgenson
7 May 24  i  +- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1Dimensional Traveler
8 May 24  i  `* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.3JAB
9 May 24  i   `* Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.2Xocyll
9 May 24  i    `- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1JAB
7 May 24  `- Re: Helldivers 2 to require Playstation subscription even bought on Steam for PC.1Ross Ridge

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