Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration

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Sujet : Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration
De : noway (at) *nospam* nochance.com (JAB)
Groupes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
Date : 30. Sep 2024, 08:19:05
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On 30/09/2024 03:31, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 9/29/2024 1:38 AM, JAB wrote:
On 28/09/2024 15:35, Ross Ridge wrote:
JAB  <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
In the UK my understanding is that arbitration courts exist* but they
can only be used for a civil offences if both parties agree including
who will be the arbitrator.
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It the same in the US and other countries.  In this case, both parties,
Valve and the Steam user, agreed to use a certain arbitration service to
resolve any disputes.  That happened when the user agreed to the Steam
Subscriber Agreement.
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In the UK you just can't do that in general as the principle is you can't sign away your rights just because the shop says so regardless of what you sign/agree to. There has to be a law in place that specially says you can sign away an individual right and even then it still has to met the criteria of could someone reasonable expect it. So no, burying it in ten pages of texts just doesn't work.
 Well, Europe (including the UK) isn't as tightly in the grip of the Mega-Corps as the US is.
 
I remember when the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) was under negotiation and thinking what on earth are the EU even doing considering it. Yeh what could possibly go wrong in letting forgiven companies interfere in domestic government policies and laws if it goes against their financial interests.
It was basically a big corporations wet dream come true.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
28 Sep 24 * Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration21Spalls Hurgenson
28 Sep 24 +- Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration1Rin Stowleigh
28 Sep 24 `* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration19JAB
28 Sep 24  +* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration4Ross Ridge
29 Sep 24  i`* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration3JAB
30 Sep 24  i `* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration2Dimensional Traveler
30 Sep 24  i  `- Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration1JAB
28 Sep 24  `* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration14Spalls Hurgenson
28 Sep 24   `* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration13Dimensional Traveler
29 Sep 24    `* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration12JAB
29 Sep 24     +* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration4Spalls Hurgenson
30 Sep 24     i`* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration3Dimensional Traveler
30 Sep 24     i `* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration2JAB
30 Sep 24     i  `- Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration1Dimensional Traveler
30 Sep 24     +* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration5Dimensional Traveler
30 Sep 24     i+* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration2JAB
30 Sep 24     ii`- Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration1Dimensional Traveler
30 Sep 24     i`* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration2Spalls Hurgenson
30 Sep 24     i `- Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration1Xocyll
30 Sep 24     `* Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration2candycanearter07
1 Oct 24      `- Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration1Spalls Hurgenson

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