Re: CRAP Poll # (Infinity - 6): Bring It Back!

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
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On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 07:10:57 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
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Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> looked up from reading the
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On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 16:52:10 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
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Okay, that's my choice. What game or franchise do you think that the
world has forgotten but -given another chance- probably would work
today?

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Red Baron (1990)

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I'd second that.
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Gunship (1986)

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Don't think I ever played that - gunship 2000 was a close as I got I
think.

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Same series; Gunship 2000 was the second game in the franchise
(followed by disappointingly arcade "Gunship!" in 2000). G2K was the
best of three.

G2k was a bit of a disappointment reality-wise.
I used to get insanely high scores by using a scout chopper with a 7.62
machine gun to do the missions.
The game would let the 7.62 take out tanks and such even though that
would never happen in reality.

Vietcong (2003)

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Don't know this one.

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An excellent FPS set, unsurprisingly, during the Vietnam war. It
attempted to present a more realistic battlefield than other FPS games
of the era. It wasn't perfect (some of the levels were unduly long,
and the underground levels were gruelingly tedious) but it stood apart
from its peers. It was made by the same team that did Mafia and looked
absolutely gorgeous back in 2003. It had a rockin' soundtrack too.

The only Vietnam game I played I think was one set on one of those
tactical riverboats.

Archon (1983) with low latency online multiplayer play

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The chess type game?  

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That's the one. It spawned its own genre that muddled along for a few
years during the 90s (leading to games like "Dark Legions" and "Wrath
Unleashed") but ultimately the whole idea was abandoned by the market.
It tried to bridge arcade gameplay with chess mechanics, and satisfied
fans of neither. I'm not sure it would have much more success today,
but who knows?

I remember fondly playing this back in 1986 on an IBM PCJr (govt job
training thing and they had a few computer games that could be played if
you hung around after class ended.

Any of those done properly could be amazing.

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And I'll add out-something  (Outwars maybe?)
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A shooter in which vertical was as important as horizontal - you had a
jet pack of sorts and later glider wings that added to it to give you
more flight range.

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Ah, the barely explored jetpack FPS genre. There are, of course, a
number of games that feature jetpacks, but few games made them central
to your gameplay. Maybe "Anthem" is the most modern?

The only one I Recall offhand was the extremely brief use of on in Duke
Nukem 3D.  That's what I liked about Outwars, the mission maps
_required_ you to use the pack to get around.

Like Descent it forced you to think in 3D, in an age of mostly
flat-plane shooters and RPGs.

Maybe that's why they disappeared, most gamers weren't capable of
dealing with having to deal with up and down.

Xocyll
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