Sujet : Re: Video games Europe - Seriously?
De : zaghadka (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (Zaghadka)
Groupes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.actionDate : 09. Jul 2025, 14:06:29
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 15:09:15 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
wrote:
On 08/07/2025 14:39, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 7/8/2025 1:27 AM, JAB wrote:
On 08/07/2025 01:30, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
Re your last paragraph above, will NEVER happen. If a publisher goes
defunct, it goes thru bankruptcy proceedings and all the DRM keys and
code are _assets_. So can't be just given away, they would have to
be distributed to creditors or sold to pay off creditors. And
forcing a company to distribute against their will effectively
destroys the entire concept of "private property".
>
If a single player game that uses an online DRM server is no longer
usable because the company has gone tits up what about the loss of my
property. Does that not matter, why is it that the consumer is always
last in the pecking order?
The EULA you signed says it isn't your property.
Well that's ok then. Maybe you could sign one that says they can sell
one of your kidneys?
Exactly, the current EULAs are not court tested and haven't been in
years, and that's not a coincidence.
These companies assiduously avoid letting EULA issues get to court and
actively discourage class-actions in the EULAs with "agree to
arbitration" clauses. The fact is, that is an invalid agreement in most
jurisdictions. You can absolutely file suit, anywhere at any time, if the
tort is grave enough.
They do not want the law to be involved. They think they *are* the law.
Their arbitrators will decide what *their* laws say.
Should something bad enough happen, like a massive termination of games
instead of dribs and drabs, that EULA is toilet paper.
This is lip service to that effect, so they can keep it a legal gray
area. That's how they like it.
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