Re: [NEWS] Apple announces new M5 MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, and Vision Pro

In article <10csjdg$rcmk$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
wrote:

On 2025-10-16 22:09, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-10-17 03:03:01 +0000, Smithwicks said:
 

In article <10cptee$5hjc$1@dont-email.me>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

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Thanks to the braindead morons in the EU governments, European buyers
will have to dig deeper in the pockets to get a charger for the MacBook
Pro (it's uncertain yet if that means a lower price for the laptop
itself in Europe). Unfortunately, such idiocy will no doubt happen
everywhere eventually, just like it has for the iPhone and iPad.  :-\
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Here's Everything Apple Announced Today
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We didn't get a second fall event this year, but Apple did
unveil updated products with a series of press releases that
went out today. The M5 chip made an appearance in new
MacBook Pro, Vision Pro, and iPad Pro models.

<snip>

<https://www.macrumors.com/2025/10/15/apple-m5-chip-announcements/>

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Still nothing on the Mac Pro, the red-headed stepchild of the M-series.
Really it ought to be nothing but a PCI-compatable Mac Studio (and not
really a huge selling point considering you can't use a GPU card on the
SoC ARM architecture). Much as I love the cheese grater look I can't
imagine it sticking around.

 
The so-called "Mac Pro" became a dead machine when Apple decided to move
to their own Apple Silicon M-series chips ... which itself was a
foregone conclusion when they use their own A-series chips in the iPhone
and iPad.
 
 
 

 
Why do you say that?

Apple silicon uses system-on-a-chip ARM architecture, which weds the
CPU, GPU, and RAM into a single chip. This makes them very solid
machines but the downside is that you can't use any external GPUs or
upgrade RAM - you're limited by your decision on those aspects when you
buy the chip.

The upside is that even my stock M3 can game very well and handle any
other applications I throw at it. I think LTT did a review trying to
play Cyberpunk on an M-series and it did shockingly well. BUT, even if
you have a Mac Pro you can't supplement that with a GPU card. The
architecture just can't utilize it.

That means, as others have pointed out, it's relegated to being a
machine for specific uses - audio cards, server purposes, maybe
something else that hasn't even occured to me.

Anything you could accomplish with a Mac Pro you should look at getting
the Mac Studio for. It's the same chip in a form factor just larger than
the Mini. Quite impressive, really.

I suppose the real question is: why does Apple keep around the tower
design instead of just putting some sort of PCI slot(s) in the Mac
Studio body? Would easily cater to those specific use cases for people
needing audio cards or similar hardware.