Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved

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De : wolf (at) *nospam* greenblatt.net (Wolf Greenblatt)
Groupes : misc.phone.mobile.iphone comp.sys.mac.system comp.mobile.android
Date : 02. Apr 2024, 01:01:16
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 11:08:28 +1300, Your Name wrote:

This is the relevant part of the article.  There will not be encryption
between Android and iOS users.  The DOJ says Apple can make it happen
but are unwilling to.
 
More know-nothing bollocks from the US DOJ. Just read note A. above,
Apple is already planning to support RCS, in some form.

Apple has no plans to fully support RCS end-to-end encryption.
That's what the DOJ suit is partially about.

If this is true then it looks like Apple is being the petulant child
stamping their feet and saying "no, no, no..."
 
"So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and
Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level
of security."
 
Wrong ...

Only the nut cases think Apple actually cares about them or their privacy.

    "Apple stated it will not use any type of proprietary
     end-to-end encryption – presumably referring to Google's
     approach — but did say it would work to make end-to-end
     encryption part of the RCS standard."

Apple does not want anyone, not even their own customers, to have the
privacy of RCS end-to-end encryption between Apple and Android users.

As such, Apple has always been glaringly anti-consumer for the sake of
profit - always to the detriment of even their own customers' privacy.

Apple wants RCS to have a proper standard for encryption and not rely
on Google's version, which for any one who knows Google (or Microsoft's
attempts to cripple HTML) knows is obviously a good thing. Just in
today's news is that Google's Chrome browser still collects data for
Google even when in the supposedly private 'Incognito' mode - Google
simply cannot be trusted, which is yet another good reason to avoid
Android OS.
<https://www.wired.com/story/google-chrome-incognito-mode-data-deletion-settlement/>
 
"If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted
messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone..."
 
As above.

It's clear to the DOJ and to anyone who read the Epic deposition where
Apple had to openly admit the last thing Apple wants is anyone having any
privacy when messaging between the two platforms, iOS and Android.

Apple is so anti privacy that they don't even want their own customers to
have that end-to-end encryption privacy - which is proved in the DOJ case.

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