Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?

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De : andrew (at) *nospam* spam.net (Andrew)
Groupes : misc.phone.mobile.iphone comp.mobile.ipad comp.sys.mac.system
Date : 20. May 2024, 19:48:48
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badgolferman wrote on Mon, 20 May 2024 17:23:26 -0000 (UTC) :
Even if anyone in this group accepted all these, there would be very
little chance they would stop using Apple products.  What do you hope
to accomplish by providing all this information?

I simply expect them to act like adults (instead of like children).
Is that too much to ask of them?

Note that the posters on the adult operating systems newsgroups can act
like adults when facts of the mothership are stated. Why not Apple too?

And to answer this simple question that they never asked themselves:
Q: *Why do you think iPhones have more 0-days & exploits than Android?*

As for the facts, they can't deny them - simply because they are facts.
Only fools deny facts (that's why they're fools, after all).

FACT:
 *Apple only fully supports a single release.*
  <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
  <https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/>
  <https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
  <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

FACT:
 *Apple always has far more exploits than does Android.*
  <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

FACT:
 *Apple only recently (in iOS 16) started the RSR patch mechanism.*
  <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201224>

FACT:
 *Google & Craig Federighi both said Apple QA is lacking in coverage.*
 <https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>
  "The root causes I highlight here are not novel and are often overlooked.
  *We'll see cases of iOS code which seems to have never worked*,
  *iOS code that likely skipped QA or likely had little testing*
  *or no code review before the iOS release was shipped to users*."

See also:
 <https://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2016/02/15/what-apple-did-and-didnt-say-about-its-software-quality/>
 <https://www.quiverquant.com/news/Apple%20Prioritizes%20Software%20Stability%20Over%20New%20Features%20in%20Strategic%20Shift>
 <https://www.axios.com/2018/01/30/scoop-apple-delays-ios-features-to-focus-on-reliability-performance-1517278421>
 etc.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 May 24 * To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?32Andrew
13 May 24 `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?31badgolferman
13 May 24  `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?30Andrew
14 May 24   +- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Alan
14 May 24   `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?28Chris
14 May 24    +* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?2Jolly Roger
14 May 24    i`- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Andrew
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15 May 24     +- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Alan
15 May 24     +* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?17Jolly Roger
15 May 24     i`* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?16Andrew
15 May 24     i `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?15badgolferman
15 May 24     i  +- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Andrew
15 May 24     i  `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?13Jolly Roger
15 May 24     i   `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?12badgolferman
15 May 24     i    +* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?10Jolly Roger
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20 May 24     i    i `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?8Andrew
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21 May 24     i    i  i`* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?3Your Name
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22 May 24     i    i  i  `- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Andrew
21 May 24     i    i  `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?2Jolly Roger
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20 May 24     i    `- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Andrew
15 May 24     `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?6Chris
20 May 24      `* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?5Andrew
20 May 24       +* Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?3Andrew
22 May 24       i+- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Creon
23 May 24       i`- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Chris
20 May 24       `- Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?1Alan

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