Re: New Pico2

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Sujet : Re: New Pico2
De : theom+news (at) *nospam* chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
Groupes : comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Date : 14. Aug 2024, 11:20:10
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Organisation : University of Cambridge, England
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
 
<https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/tiny-2350?variant=42092638699603>
<https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pga2350?variant=42092629229651>
 
They arrived today (quite good for ordering on Sunday)
 
The tiny one lives up to its name, about the size of a mini SIM
card, even the PGA one is only an inch square, has nothing but 1/10" pin
layout, should be good for embedding ... I'll get a picoplus2 when the
second batch become available

It's nice how they've integrated more stuff into the SiP, so you can make
things smaller.  The trouble with the original Pico was that it took up more
board space than say an ESP32.

Now, if somebody would do a module pin-compatible with the ESP32 modules
that includes wifi, then things will be Very Interesting.  Looks possible -
there's a board with the RP2350 and an ESP32-WROOM side by side which shows
the comparison:
https://www.switch-science.com/collections/%E3%83%9E%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89/products/9796
and there might be space to get the wifi chip inside the footprint.
Couldn't say whether the RF performance would let you though.

What's nice also is that it's a Proper Arm Chip, rather than the weird
Tensilica Xtensa CPU architecture in the base ESP32s.  Some programming
languages like Rust are better supported on Arm than on oddball CPUs.  ESP32
have gone to RISC-V for some of the newer ones (but not all, so you can't
get all the features with a RISC-V CPU) which is better, but with the RP2350
you get all the boxes ticked in one package.  Aside from wifi, of course.

(apparently the wireless version of the Pico 2 is due end of the year -
meanwhile people are putting RP2350s with ESP32 modules on boards like the
above.  Maybe RPi have do some certification work before releasing).

Theo

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11 Aug 24 * New Pico285Andy Burns
11 Aug 24 +* Re: New Pico239John Larkin
11 Aug 24 i`* Re: New Pico238John Larkin
11 Aug 24 i +- Re: New Pico21Andy Burns
12 Aug 24 i +* Re: New Pico29Ahem A Rivet's Shot
12 Aug 24 i i+- Re: New Pico21Kerr-Mudd, John
12 Aug 24 i i`* Re: New Pico27Theo
12 Aug 24 i i +* Re: New Pico25Phil Hobbs
12 Aug 24 i i i`* Re: New Pico24druck
12 Aug 24 i i i `* Re: New Pico23David Higton
12 Aug 24 i i i  `* Re: New Pico22Single Stage to Orbit
12 Aug 24 i i i   `- Re: New Pico21Chris Townley
12 Aug 24 i i `- Re: New Pico21Dennis
12 Aug 24 i `* Re: New Pico227Lasse Langwadt
13 Aug 24 i  `* Re: New Pico226John Larkin
13 Aug 24 i   +* Re: New Pico223Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Aug 24 i   i+- Re: New Pico21mm0fmf
13 Aug 24 i   i`* Re: New Pico221John Larkin
13 Aug 24 i   i +- Re: New Pico21The Natural Philosopher
22 Aug 24 i   i `* Re: New Pico219Gerhard Hoffmann
22 Aug 24 i   i  `* Re: New Pico218Jan Panteltje
22 Aug 24 i   i   `* Re: New Pico217druck
23 Aug 24 i   i    +* Re: New Pico212Jan Panteltje
23 Aug 24 i   i    i`* Re: New Pico211Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Aug 24 i   i    i +- Re: New Pico21Jan Panteltje
23 Aug 24 i   i    i +* Re: New Pico28Jan Panteltje
24 Aug 24 i   i    i i+* Re: New Pico24Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Aug 24 i   i    i ii`* Re: New Pico23Jan Panteltje
24 Aug 24 i   i    i ii `* Re: New Pico22Ahem A Rivet's Shot
26 Aug 24 i   i    i ii  `- Re: New Pico21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Aug 24 i   i    i i`* Re: New Pico23Ahem A Rivet's Shot
24 Aug 24 i   i    i i +- Re: New Pico21Single Stage to Orbit
26 Aug 24 i   i    i i `- Re: New Pico21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Aug 24 i   i    i `- Re: New Pico21Theo
23 Aug 24 i   i    `* Re: New Pico24The Natural Philosopher
23 Aug 24 i   i     `* Re: New Pico23Ahem A Rivet's Shot
23 Aug 24 i   i      `* Re: New Pico22The Natural Philosopher
24 Aug 24 i   i       `- Re: New Pico21Andy Burns
19 Aug 24 i   `* Re: New Pico22john larkin
20 Aug 24 i    `- Pico multicore1wmartin
11 Aug 24 +* Re: New Pico240Single Stage to Orbit
11 Aug 24 i+* Re: New Pico22Andy Burns
11 Aug 24 ii`- Re: New Pico21Single Stage to Orbit
12 Aug 24 i+* Re: New Pico217druck
13 Aug 24 ii+* Re: New Pico215Richard Kettlewell
13 Aug 24 iii+- Re: New Pico21Single Stage to Orbit
13 Aug 24 iii+* Re: New Pico211Theo
13 Aug 24 iiii+* Re: New Pico25Ahem A Rivet's Shot
13 Aug 24 iiiii+- Re: New Pico21Theo
17 Aug 24 iiiii`* Re: New Pico23Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Aug 24 iiiii +- Re: New Pico21Ahem A Rivet's Shot
17 Aug 24 iiiii `- Re: New Pico21Theo
13 Aug 24 iiii`* Re: New Pico25John Larkin
13 Aug 24 iiii +* Re: New Pico23Theo
14 Aug 24 iiii i+- Re: New Pico21Richard Kettlewell
17 Aug 24 iiii i`- Re: New Pico21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Aug 24 iiii `- Re: New Pico21druck
13 Aug 24 iii`* Re: New Pico22Andy Burns
17 Aug 24 iii `- Re: New Pico21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Aug 24 ii`- Re: New Pico21The Natural Philosopher
13 Aug 24 i`* Re: New Pico220John Larkin
13 Aug 24 i +* Re: New Pico218Single Stage to Orbit
14 Aug 24 i i`* Re: New Pico217Single Stage to Orbit
14 Aug 24 i i +* Re: New Pico24Ahem A Rivet's Shot
17 Aug 24 i i i`* Re: New Pico23Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Aug 24 i i i `* Re: New Pico22Ahem A Rivet's Shot
18 Aug 24 i i i  `- Re: New Pico21The Natural Philosopher
14 Aug 24 i i +* Re: New Pico22Dennis
17 Aug 24 i i i`- Re: New Pico21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Aug 24 i i +* Re: New Pico27john larkin
14 Aug 24 i i i`* Re: New Pico26Chris Townley
14 Aug 24 i i i `* Re: New Pico25john larkin
14 Aug 24 i i i  +* Re: New Pico23druck
15 Aug 24 i i i  i`* Re: New Pico22Gordon Henderson
15 Aug 24 i i i  i `- Re: New Pico21Kerr-Mudd, John
14 Aug 24 i i i  `- Re: New Pico21Single Stage to Orbit
14 Aug 24 i i +- Re: New Pico21The Natural Philosopher
21 Aug 24 i i +- Re: New Pico21Michael J. Mahon
13 Sep 24 i i `- Re: New Pico21Lars Poulsen
16 Aug 24 i `- Re: New Pico21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 +* Re: New Pico22Andy Burns
12 Aug 24 i`- Re: New Pico21Single Stage to Orbit
13 Aug 24 `* Re: New Pico23Andy Burns
14 Aug 24  +- Re: New Pico21Single Stage to Orbit
14 Aug 24  `- Re: New Pico21Theo

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