Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?

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Sujet : Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?
De : Pancho.Jones (at) *nospam* proton.me (Pancho)
Groupes : comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Date : 09. Dec 2024, 13:28:41
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On 12/9/24 10:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/12/2024 19:50, David Higton wrote:
In message <vj1d28$31v9g$12@dont-email.me>
           The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
It's an interesting thought as to why one would use a fan at all. If its
such a high compute task that you need one, maybe a bigger Pi or an
Intel based machine is indicated.
>
I dislike fans. They fail.
>
PC fans run pretty much all the time.  A fan on a RasPi is likely to
run less of the time, and could well last longer overall.
>
Fans fail.  Disc drives fail.  SSDs fail.  Batteries fail.  Reservoir
capacitors fail.  But before they do, they are very useful.
>
 Such an ArtStudent™ view of life.
 Do you know what MTBF means?
 
I was surprised you'd use MTBF for a component which is expected to steadily deteriorate due to wear and tear.
I though MTBF was more a random failure thing.
For some relatively reliable components, such as people, you initially see a relatively low failure rate, but come 80 or 90 years they start dropping like flies, due to wear and tear.
For some things like atomic an atomic nucleus, the failure does seem random, so MTBF seems applicable.
I don't know which it is for PC fans, but would assume it is more wear and tear than random.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Dec 24 * Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?26s|b
3 Dec 24 `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?25Theo
4 Dec 24  `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?24s|b
5 Dec 24   `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?23The Natural Philosopher
6 Dec 24    `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?22s|b
7 Dec 24     `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?21The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?4Pancho
7 Dec 24      i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3The Natural Philosopher
8 Dec 24      i `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2Pancho
8 Dec 24      i  `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3s|b
7 Dec 24      i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      i `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1s|b
8 Dec 24      `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?13David Higton
9 Dec 24       +- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1druck
9 Dec 24       `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?11The Natural Philosopher
9 Dec 24        +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?7Pancho
9 Dec 24        i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?6The Natural Philosopher
9 Dec 24        i +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?4Michael Schwingen
9 Dec 24        i i+* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2The Natural Philosopher
10 Dec 24        i ii`- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Michael Schwingen
11 Dec 24        i i`- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Pancho
11 Dec 24        i `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Pancho
9 Dec 24        `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3David Higton
9 Dec 24         +- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1The Natural Philosopher
10 Dec 24         `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Michael Schwingen

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