Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?

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Sujet : Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?
De : tnp (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
Groupes : comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Date : 09. Dec 2024, 18:37:34
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On 09/12/2024 17:27, David Higton wrote:
In message <vj6i1l$c6u2$4@dont-email.me>
           The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
 
On 08/12/2024 19:50, David Higton wrote:
In message <vj1d28$31v9g$12@dont-email.me>
            The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
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It's an interesting thought as to why one would use a fan at all. If
its such a high compute task that you need one, maybe a bigger Pi or an
Intel based machine is indicated.
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I dislike fans. They fail.
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PC fans run pretty much all the time.  A fan on a RasPi is likely to run
less of the time, and could well last longer overall.
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Fans fail.  Disc drives fail.  SSDs fail.  Batteries fail.  Reservoir
capacitors fail.  But before they do, they are very useful.
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Such an ArtStudent™ view of life.
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Do you know what MTBF means?
 Yes.  Something I don't understand, though, is why so many people use
the term MTBF when the appropriate one would be MTTF, since so few of
the things referred to are repaired.
 
That phrase was not used when I studied electronics.
Mind you, then everything was repairable.
I think its pretty academic when you are talking about consumer shit
It has to be expensive to be worth repairing.
I messed up a pi Pico  I thought about spending hours fixing it and spent a minute ordering a new one and threw the old one in the bin
When I was managing servers no one cared what went wrong, only that it had. Whether it was something we could fix - like putting in a new hard drive, Ram SIMM or a fan - or something we wouldn't bother with - like a new motherboard
IN operational terms the lifetime of the fan IS the mean tine between failures of the computer  if its the thing that goes the most often. And in many cases it was - fans, hard drives and RAM chips.
All were a bit likely to develop issues in under 5 year timescales
These definitions are academic.
The MTBF <= the shortest MTTF in the component list...
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“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.”
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Dec 24 * Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?26s|b
3 Dec 24 `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?25Theo
4 Dec 24  `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?24s|b
5 Dec 24   `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?23The Natural Philosopher
6 Dec 24    `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?22s|b
7 Dec 24     `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?21The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?4Pancho
7 Dec 24      i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3The Natural Philosopher
8 Dec 24      i `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2Pancho
8 Dec 24      i  `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3s|b
7 Dec 24      i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      i `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1s|b
8 Dec 24      `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?13David Higton
9 Dec 24       +- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1druck
9 Dec 24       `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?11The Natural Philosopher
9 Dec 24        +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?7Pancho
9 Dec 24        i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?6The Natural Philosopher
9 Dec 24        i +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?4Michael Schwingen
9 Dec 24        i i+* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2The Natural Philosopher
10 Dec 24        i ii`- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Michael Schwingen
11 Dec 24        i i`- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Pancho
11 Dec 24        i `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Pancho
9 Dec 24        `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3David Higton
9 Dec 24         +- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1The Natural Philosopher
10 Dec 24         `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Michael Schwingen

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