Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?

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Sujet : Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?
De : news-1513678000 (at) *nospam* discworld.dascon.de (Michael Schwingen)
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Date : 10. Dec 2024, 20:30:23
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On 2024-12-09, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
https://www.rs-online.com/designspark/why-l10-life-expectancy-is-key-for-fan-durability-over-mtbf-ratings
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This is full of bullshit
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"MTBF estimates the lifespan of a fan’s electronic components, expressed
in millions of hours. In contrast, L10 Service Life, measured in
thousands of hours, is based on the durability of the bearings and
lubrication grease."
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So a fan with no electronic components has no MTBF?

remove "electronic" and it makes sense.

https://www.digi.com/support/knowledge-base/understanding-mtbf-mean-time-between-failures
 
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"Furthermore, MTBF specifically excludes wear-out factors"
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  Total crap.

No. Again, MTBF characterizes failures during normal service life.

Take a fan which usually fails after 5 years of operation due to wearout,
which happens on all of those fans after about the same amount of time -
those 5 years are *not* parts of the MTBF.  MTBF characterizes the
statistical mean time between failures *during* those 5 years due to *other*
reasons.

So you can have a MTBF of 50 years, and a lifetime of 5 years. If you take
100 of those fans, you can expect 2 failures per year - but after 5 years,
the failure rate will rise rapidly to reach 100%.

What matters is how long the repair or the new fan will last. Not
splitting hairs over MTTF versus MTBF

The important thing is to keep MTBF and lifetime separate - both will lead
to failures, but are separate mechanisms.

cu
Michael
--
Some people have no respect of age unless it is bottled.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Dec 24 * Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?26s|b
3 Dec 24 `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?25Theo
4 Dec 24  `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?24s|b
5 Dec 24   `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?23The Natural Philosopher
6 Dec 24    `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?22s|b
7 Dec 24     `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?21The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?4Pancho
7 Dec 24      i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3The Natural Philosopher
8 Dec 24      i `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2Pancho
8 Dec 24      i  `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3s|b
7 Dec 24      i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2The Natural Philosopher
7 Dec 24      i `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1s|b
8 Dec 24      `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?13David Higton
9 Dec 24       +- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1druck
9 Dec 24       `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?11The Natural Philosopher
9 Dec 24        +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?7Pancho
9 Dec 24        i`* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?6The Natural Philosopher
9 Dec 24        i +* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?4Michael Schwingen
9 Dec 24        i i+* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?2The Natural Philosopher
10 Dec 24        i ii`- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Michael Schwingen
11 Dec 24        i i`- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Pancho
11 Dec 24        i `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Pancho
9 Dec 24        `* Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?3David Higton
9 Dec 24         +- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1The Natural Philosopher
10 Dec 24         `- Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables?1Michael Schwingen

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