On 22/05/2025 06:23, Keith Thompson wrote:Hey, it's the way I tell 'em!Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:Of course not. But I'm just reflecting. He seemed to think that my inability to write the kind of program Turing envisaged (an inability that I readily concede) is evidence for his argument. Well, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.On 22/05/2025 00:14, olcott wrote:[...]On 5/21/2025 6:11 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:>>Turing proved that what you're asking is impossible.That is not what he proved.
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Then you'll be able to write a universal termination analyser that can
correctly report for any program and any input whether it halts. Good
luck with that.
Not necessarily.
Even if olcott had refuted the proofs of theAnd we both know what we both think of that idea.
insolvability of the Halting Problem -- or even if he had proved
that a universal halt decider is possible
-- that doesn't implyIndeed.
that he or anyone else would be able to write one.
I've never been entirely clear on what olcott is claiming.Nor I. Mike Terry seems to have a pretty good handle on it, but no matter how clearly he explains it to me my eyes glaze over and I start to snore.
Here's what the tabloids might have said about it, if it had made the front pages when the story broke:
COMPUTER BOFFIN IS TURING IN HIS GRAVE!
An Internet crank claims to have refuted Linz HP proof by creating a
Halt Decider that CORRECTLY decides its own "impossible input"!
The computing world is underwhelmed.
Better? (Appologies for the headline, it's the best I could come up with.)
Mike.
[...] He has rarely, if ever, stated his claims clearly enoughHe has been urged to summarise his complete argument on a Web page. Several times, in fact. He generally responds with a nonsensical copy and paste.
for anyone to be sure what he's claiming. Of course I could
have missed something, since I've read less than 1% of what he
writes.
But if you took everything he's posted here and combined it into;-)
a single text file, I'll bet it would compress *really* well.
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