Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof

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Sujet : Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. Jul 2025, 09:43:10
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On 2025-07-10 14:09:55 +0000, olcott said:

On 7/10/2025 4:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-09 14:16:44 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 7/9/2025 9:04 AM, joes wrote:
Am Wed, 09 Jul 2025 07:31:59 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 7/9/2025 3:29 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-08 14:18:32 +0000, olcott said:
On 7/8/2025 2:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
 
True conclusion from false premeises is fairly common. But that is
not relevant.
It proves that logic is fundamentally incorrect on this point.
Logic must be a sequence of truth preserving operations or it is
wrong.
Should only false conclusions be derivable from false premises?
 False premises must be immediately rejected.
 Often one must work with sentences that are not known to be true but
not known to be false, either.
 
 Then contradiction proves falsehood.
That's right: if a contradiction is inferred then at least one of the
preimises is false. But that does not tell which premise is false.
--
Mikko

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4 Jul 25 * Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof47olcott
4 Jul 25 +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof9Richard Damon
4 Jul 25 i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8olcott
5 Jul 25 i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul16:28 i i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3olcott
6 Jul01:14 i i +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
6 Jul10:15 i i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul13:54 i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3Richard Damon
5 Jul16:37 i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
6 Jul01:20 i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
5 Jul09:46 +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
5 Jul10:06 `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof36Mikko
5 Jul16:18  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof35olcott
6 Jul09:30   `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof34Mikko
6 Jul15:48    `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof33olcott
6 Jul17:41     +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
7 Jul09:20     `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof31Mikko
7 Jul14:57      `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof30olcott
8 Jul00:10       +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
8 Jul08:41       `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof28Mikko
8 Jul15:18        `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof27olcott
9 Jul09:29         +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof25Mikko
9 Jul13:31         i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof24olcott
9 Jul15:04         i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof12joes
9 Jul15:16         i i+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof10olcott
10 Jul10:05         i ii+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8Mikko
10 Jul15:09         i iii`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof7olcott
11 Jul09:43         i iii `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6Mikko
11 Jul16:30         i iii  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof5olcott
11 Jul16:50         i iii   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3joes
11 Jul21:52         i iii   i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
11 Jul23:58         i iii   i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul23:55         i iii   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
10 Jul12:26         i ii`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
9 Jul16:09         i i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott
10 Jul10:02         i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof11Mikko
10 Jul15:09         i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof10olcott
10 Jul15:55         i   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
11 Jul02:59         i   i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul02:58         i   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6Richard Damon
11 Jul04:58         i   i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof5André G. Isaak
11 Jul05:29         i   i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4olcott
11 Jul05:42         i   i  +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2André G. Isaak
11 Jul06:12         i   i  i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott
11 Jul14:35         i   i  `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul09:47         i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
9 Jul12:09         `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon

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