Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior of their caller

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Sujet : Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior of their caller
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 12. Jul 2025, 16:16:40
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On 7/12/2025 5:52 AM, joes wrote:
Am Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:13:38 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 7/11/2025 3:59 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
 
As usual claims without evidence. If we do not change the input (which
aborts after a few cycles o simulation), then the simulating HHH could
reach the final halt state without abort.
 
It is a very easily verified fact that the input never aborts anything
at all.
 Only because it is aborted in turn.
HHH(DDD) simulates its input until it sees that
DDD cannot possibly stop running unless aborted.
void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}
Can you see that DDD endlessly repeats its first
line of code when simulated by a pure simulator HHH?

The *input*, being the code of DDD,
doesn't do anything at all since it is just a representation. This
representation has reachable code to abort.
 
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