Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation

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Sujet : Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 07. Jun 2024, 15:52:38
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On 6/7/2024 12:55 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-06-06 18:35:15 +0000, olcott said:
 
<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
   If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
   until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
   stop running unless aborted then
>
   H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
   specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words10/13/2022>
 Note that the agreement mentioned above does not imply any
agreement or diagreement about the claim on the subject line.
 
When P correctly simulated by H meets this criteria
   If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input P
   until H correctly determines that its simulated P would never
   stop running unless aborted then
   H can abort its simulation of P and correctly report that P
   specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
My first paper in simulating halt deciders has all of the details
including showing the execution trace of P correctly simulated
by H proves a repeating state thus meets the above criteria:
Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation at Machine Address:c36
  machine   stack     stack     machine    assembly
  address   address   data      code       language
  ========  ========  ========  =========  =============
[00000c36][002117ca][002117ce] 55          push ebp
[00000c37][002117ca][002117ce] 8bec        mov ebp,esp
[00000c39][002117ca][002117ce] 8b4508      mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00000c3c][002117c6][00000c36] 50          push eax       // push P
[00000c3d][002117c6][00000c36] 8b4d08      mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00000c40][002117c2][00000c36] 51          push ecx       // push P
[00000c41][002117be][00000c46] e820fdffff  call 00000966  // call H(P,P)
[00000c36][0025c1f2][0025c1f6] 55          push ebp
[00000c37][0025c1f2][0025c1f6] 8bec        mov ebp,esp
[00000c39][0025c1f2][0025c1f6] 8b4508      mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00000c3c][0025c1ee][00000c36] 50          push eax       // push P
[00000c3d][0025c1ee][00000c36] 8b4d08      mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00000c40][0025c1ea][00000c36] 51          push ecx       // push P
[00000c41][0025c1e6][00000c46] e820fdffff  call 00000966  // call H(P,P)
Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped
*Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation*
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Jun 24 * DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation15olcott
6 Jun 24 +* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4Rafael Doofenschmirtz
7 Jun 24 i`* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation3Mikko
7 Jun 24 i `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation2olcott
7 Jun 24 i  `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
7 Jun 24 +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
7 Jun 24 +* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4Mikko
7 Jun 24 i`* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation3olcott
7 Jun 24 i +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
8 Jun 24 i `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Mikko
7 Jun 24 `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation5Fred. Zwarts
7 Jun 24  `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4olcott
7 Jun 24   +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1olcott
7 Jun 24   +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Fred. Zwarts
7 Jun 24   `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon

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