Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS ---

On 6/10/2024 4:59 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2024-06-10 08:35:09 +0000, joes said:
 

Am Sun, 09 Jun 2024 22:54:52 -0500 schrieb olcott:

On 5/29/2021 2:26 PM, olcott wrote:
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.theory/c/dTvIY5NX6b4/m/cHR2ZPgPBAAJ
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THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY for D simulated by H to have the same behavior as
the directly executed D(D) is for the instructions of D to be
incorrectly simulated by H (details provided below).
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_D()
[00000cfc](01)  55                      push ebp
[00000cfd](02)  8bec                    mov ebp,esp
[00000cff](03)  8b4508                  mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00000d02](01)  50                      push eax       ; push D
[00000d03](03)  8b4d08                  mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00000d06](01)  51                      push ecx       ; push D
[00000d07](05)  e800feffff              call 00000b0c  ; call H
[00000d0c](03)  83c408                  add esp,+08
[00000d0f](02)  85c0                    test eax,eax
[00000d11](02)  7404                    jz 00000d17
[00000d13](02)  33c0                    xor eax,eax
[00000d15](02)  eb05                    jmp 00000d1c
[00000d17](05)  b801000000              mov eax,00000001
[00000d1c](01)  5d                      pop ebp
[00000d1d](01)  c3                      ret Size in
bytes:(0034) [00000d1d]
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In order for D simulated by H to have the same behavior as the directly
executed D(D) H must ignore the instruction at machine address
[00000d07]. *That is an incorrect simulation of D*

I don't understand. Does D(D) ignore the call to H(D,D)?
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H does not ignore that instruction and simulates itself simulating D.
The simulated H outputs its own execution trace of D.

 What instructions does H use to output that trace and how those

I don't remember it has been two years.
I am looking into this again.

instructions are simulated when H is simulated?
 

They are simulated by
u32  DebugStep(Registers* master_state,
                Registers* slave_state, Decoded_Line_Of_Code* decoded)
                { return 0; }
This depends on libx86emu.

And why does H output any traces? That is not required by its

The traces are output so that people can directly see the
same infinite recursion behavior pattern that H sees and
thus know that H really is required to abort ts simulation.

specification or purpose. If traces are needed for some other
purpose it would be better to let the execution environment
make the traces. If your normal execution environment cannot
make them then use ontother one that can, e.g. a simulator.
 

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