Re: Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant --- AKA is Fred a Liar ?

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Sujet : Re: Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant --- AKA is Fred a Liar ?
De : F.Zwarts (at) *nospam* HetNet.nl (Fred. Zwarts)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 03. Jul 2024, 19:01:14
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Op 03.jul.2024 om 18:24 schreef olcott:
On 7/3/2024 11:18 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/3/2024 11:04 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 03.jul.2024 om 17:51 schreef olcott:
On 7/3/2024 10:40 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
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[ .... ]
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_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
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*This is the repeating state*
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But not an *infinitely* repeating state.
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The criteria that I spent two years writing and the best selling
author of theory of computation textbooks agrees with says nothing
about *infinitely* repeating state.
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Irrelevant, because that is about a correct simulation. Your simulation
is incorrect, so Sipser does not apply here.
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OK you are a liar then.
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I don't think so.  There is only one liar on this newsgroup, and it's not
Fred.
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 *A liar is anyone that denies this*
Another display of lack of correct reasoning.

 _DDD()
[00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d               pop ebp
[00002183] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
 DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat this process until the emulated DDD is aborted.
I proved that HHH cannot possibly correctly simulate itself.
You are unable to show the error in the proof.
If you then repeat 'correctly', who is ignoring the truth?

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