Sujet : Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 08. Jul 2024, 08:22:44
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On 2024-07-07 14:16:10 +0000, olcott said:
_DDD()
[00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d pop ebp
[00002183] c3 ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
Sufficient knowledge of the x86 language conclusively proves
that the call from DDD correctly emulated by HHH to HHH(DDD)
cannot possibly return for any pure function HHH.
Suffifcient knowledge of the x86 language makes obvious that
DDD returns if and only if HHH returns.
Whether a partial simulation of DDD simulates the return depends
on the simulator. The code of DDD and x86 language don't tell
how much a simulator (not shown above) simulates.
-- Mikko
| Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
| 7 Jul 24 |  Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 133 | | olcott |
| 7 Jul 24 |  Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 3 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 |   Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 2 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 |   Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 8 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 129 | | Mikko |
| 8 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 128 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 46 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 45 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 40 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 39 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 38 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 12 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 11 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 10 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 9 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 8 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees to something different. | 7 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings | 6 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings | 5 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings | 4 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings | 3 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings | 2 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 15 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 14 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 4 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 3 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 2 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 9 | | Mikko |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 8 | | Richard Damon |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 7 | | Mikko |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 2 | | Richard Damon |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 1 | | Mikko |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 4 | | olcott |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 2 | | Mikko |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 1 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 10 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 9 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 8 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 7 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 2 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 4 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 3 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 2 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected) | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 4 | | Mikko |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 3 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees | 1 | | Mikko |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 81 | | Mikko |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 80 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 77 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 76 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 74 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 73 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 68 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 67 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 1 | | joes |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 64 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 61 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 31 | | joes |
| 10 Jul 24 | DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 30 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 29 | | joes |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 28 | | olcott |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 27 | | Richard Damon |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 26 | | olcott |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt, thinks olcott, but it does. | 25 | | Richard Damon |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt, thinks olcott, but it does. | 24 | | olcott |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt, thinks olcott, but it does. | 23 | | Richard Damon |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 22 | | olcott |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 21 | | Richard Damon |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 20 | | olcott |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 19 | | Richard Damon |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 18 | | olcott |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 17 | | Richard Damon |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 16 | | olcott |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 10 | | joes |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 9 | | olcott |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 4 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 3 | | olcott |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 1 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 13 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 1 | | Mikko |
| 13 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 14 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 3 | | joes |
| 14 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 2 | | olcott |
| 14 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt Because HHH that correctly simulates does not Halt | 5 | | Richard Damon |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 4 | | olcott |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 1 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 12 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt | 1 | | joes |
| 13 Jul 24 | Re: DDD correctly but partially emulated by HHH cannot possibly be seen to halt by HHH, but do halt | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 29 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 28 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 27 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 26 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 25 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 24 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 3 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 11 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 20 | | Mikko |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters ---clarification | 1 | | olcott |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- one more freaking time | 1 | | olcott |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 9 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 3 | | joes |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 10 Jul 24 | Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters | 1 | | Mikko |