Re: V5 --- Professor Sipser

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Sujet : Re: V5 --- Professor Sipser
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 21. Aug 2024, 21:01:38
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On 8/21/2024 2:55 PM, joes wrote:
Am Wed, 21 Aug 2024 13:52:46 -0500 schrieb olcott:>> You keep missing the idea that HHH does a partial simulation of DDD to
predict what would happen if this HHH never aborted its simulation of
DDD.

That HHH is not simulating itself.
 
<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
     until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
     stop running unless aborted then
     H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
     specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
HHH only needs to simulate itself simulating DDD once to
   correctly determine that its simulated DDD would
   never stop running unless aborted...
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