Re: Pathological self-reference changes the semantics of the same finite string.

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Sujet : Re: Pathological self-reference changes the semantics of the same finite string.
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 30. Aug 2024, 14:22:52
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On 2024-08-30 12:57:49 +0000, olcott said:

On 8/30/2024 3:11 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-08-29 17:53:44 +0000, olcott said:
 
I just proved that the basic notion of finite strings
having unique meanings independently of their context
is incorrect.
 The context is the halting problem.
 The behavior of
the directly executed DDD and executed HHH
is different from the behavior of
the emulated DDD and the emulated HHH
The correct behaviour is the computation that the user wants to
ask about. If the input string specifies a different behaviour
then the input string is worng, not the behaviour.
--
Mikko

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