Sujet : Re: Defining a correct halt decider
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 05. Sep 2024, 08:39:41
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On 2024-09-03 13:17:56 +0000, olcott said:
On 9/3/2024 3:44 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-09-02 16:06:11 +0000, olcott said:
A correct halt decider is a Turing machine T with one accept state and one reject state such that:
If T is executed with initial tape contents equal to an encoding of Turing machine X and its initial tape contents Y, and execution of a real machine X with initial tape contents Y eventually halts, the execution of T eventually ends up in the accept state and then stops.
If T is executed with initial tape contents equal to an encoding of Turing machine X and its initial tape contents Y, and execution of a real machine X with initial tape contents Y does not eventually halt, the execution of T eventually ends up in the reject state and then stops.
Your "definition" fails to specify "encoding". There is no standard
encoding of Turing machines and tape contents.
That is why I made the isomorphic x86utm system.
By failing to have such a concrete system all kinds
of false assumptions cannot be refuted.
If it were isnomorphic the same false assumtipns would apply to both.
The behavior of DDD emulated by HHH** <is> different
than the behavior of the directly executed DDD**
**according to the semantics of the x86 language
The halting problem is not about a string but about a behaviour.
Your decider is not a halt decider if it answers about another
behaviour.
-- Mikko