Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---

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Sujet : Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 03. Nov 2024, 10:19:49
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On 2024-11-02 10:21:09 +0000, Andy Walker said:

On 02/11/2024 08:43, Mikko wrote:
A false assertion is a lie even if nobody asserts it.
[PO:]
Not at all. The base meaning of {lie} requires intentional
deception.
That may be its base meaning but the full meaning includes
all false statements. The statement itself does not change
when someone states it so there is no clear advantage in
saying that the statement was not a lie until someone stated
it.
  Disagree.  There is a clear advantage in distinguishing those
who make [honest] mistakes from those who wilfully mislead.
That is not a disagreement.
--
Mikko

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27 Oct 24 * The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---590olcott
27 Oct 24 `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---589Richard Damon
27 Oct 24  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---588olcott
28 Oct 24   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---587Richard Damon
28 Oct 24    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---586olcott
28 Oct 24     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---585Richard Damon
28 Oct 24      `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---584olcott
29 Oct 24       `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---583Richard Damon
29 Oct 24        +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---468olcott
29 Oct 24        i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
29 Oct 24        i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---466Mikko
29 Oct 24        i +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---272olcott
29 Oct 24        i i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---244Andy Walker
29 Oct 24        i ii+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---9olcott
29 Oct 24        i iii+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---7joes
29 Oct 24        i iiii`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---6olcott
30 Oct 24        i iiii `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---5Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i iiii  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---4olcott
30 Oct 24        i iiii   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i iiii    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
31 Oct 24        i iiii     `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i iii`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i ii`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---234Jeff Barnett
30 Oct 24        i ii +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---4olcott
30 Oct 24        i ii i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i ii i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
31 Oct 24        i ii i  `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i ii `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---229Andy Walker
30 Oct 24        i ii  +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
31 Oct 24        i ii  i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
31 Oct 24        i ii  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---226Mikko
31 Oct 24        i ii   +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3olcott
1 Nov 24        i ii   i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
1 Nov 24        i ii   i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
31 Oct 24        i ii   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---222Andy Walker
31 Oct 24        i ii    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---221olcott
1 Nov 24        i ii     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---220Richard Damon
1 Nov 24        i ii      `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---219olcott
1 Nov 24        i ii       +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---209olcott
1 Nov 24        i ii       i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---207Mikko
1 Nov 24        i ii       ii`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---206olcott
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---204Mikko
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---189Andy Walker
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  ii`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---185Mikko
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---15olcott
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---12Mike Terry
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---11olcott
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---10Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---9olcott
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---8Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---7olcott
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---6Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii      `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---5olcott
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii       +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii       `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3joes
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii        `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii         `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---169Andy Walker
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i  +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1olcott
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---167Mikko
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---166Andy Walker
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3olcott
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3Mikko
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2Andy Walker
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    i `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---159Alan Mackenzie
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---157olcott
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     i+* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---152Alan Mackenzie
7 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---151olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---150Alan Mackenzie
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii  `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---149olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---147Alan Mackenzie
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---146olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---142Alan Mackenzie
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---141olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---139Alan Mackenzie
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---138olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---129Richard Damon
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---128olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---127Richard Damon
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i  `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---126olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i   `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---125Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i    `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---124olcott
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i     `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---123Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i      `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---122olcott
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---4Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3olcott
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       i  `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---117joes
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i        `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct116olcott
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i         +- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct1Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i         +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct105Alan Mackenzie
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i         +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct8joes
10 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i         `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct1Mikko
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---8Alan Mackenzie
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i +- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2joes
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
7 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---4Richard Damon
7 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---12olcott
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
2 Nov 24        i ii       i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
1 Nov 24        i ii       `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---9Mikko
29 Oct 24        i i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---16joes
30 Oct 24        i i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---10Mikko
29 Oct 24        i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---193olcott
29 Oct 24        `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---114olcott

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