Sujet : Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: Postgres is in C!)
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : comp.theory comp.lang.c comp.lang.c++Date : 29. Jul 2026, 21:49:00
Autres entêtes
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Hi,
> Who exactly is the thief? Does this person
> have stats in the Rogue class in dungeons
> and dragons?
The conspiracy theory of a stealing of Torso VDBE,
by Rossy Boy, is probably a result of complete
ignorance of the Hack ecosystem.
Hack is a very popular computer science project,
with a couple of subprojects in hardware and
software. It goes also by the name Nand to Tetris,
and is programming language agnositic. You can do
Hack experiments in any programming language, be
it BASIC, ADA or Rust. Nobody cares.
The gist are projects like here, first to
educate yourself about Hack:
https://www.nand2tetris.org/courseAnd then to use Hack in different contexts:
https://www.nand2tetris.org/copy-of-talksFor didactic purposes, I used Hack for my WebGPU
experiment. I didn't even take a look at Torso
VDBE, why should I? Hack is nicely documented,
has even a book, and fusing the two 16-bit
instruction types A and D, into a single 32-bit
instruction stream, is nowhere patented.
Bye
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
On 30/07/2026 2:13 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite- in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835
>
I don't much care about Rust. It's yet another Google product,
with the idea of not having exception handling, then supposedly
it's efficient and safe, yet, it's efficient by not being safe,
and safe by not being efficient. Then there's the macro/metaprogramming
front-end, which basically doesn't validate
like templates or otherwise for compile-time invariants,
that is basically like people who use string substititution instead
of object models, who all suffer injection attacks.
Personally, I like Postgres in C, and I hope it stays there. I used to
maintain PL/Java, and got intimately familiar with some of the limi-
tations of the JNI interface. And while there's some new Java foreign
function interface now, it doesn't replace JNI. Especially for projects
that embed the JVM like PL/Java.
I haven't contributed to that project for maybe one and half decade, and
now that I'm using Java again -- a project I'll mention in another
thread --[1] I may just resume some duties in PL/Java. But that's a
future adventure that may or may not happen.
So, I was going to say something about Postgres? Right, I'm sure the
author of Postgres-in-Rust will run into some of the problems people
always run into when they attempt to rewrite other large projects, and
that's not learning from the prior mistakes. I try to avoid that.
Some of that I learned the hard way, and some of that I learned by read-
ing the /Mythical Man Month/. I don't remember the author's name, and
my physical copy is not in my current library, but I believe the author
is famous enough I don't need to mention him by name.
>
>
This latest manic episode has that in some more clinical or caring
settings, then one might wonder over the author's need to get help
or whether they're lost their mittens. In another view, though,
that's crazy-town and it's not a good place and we don't go there
any-more, population burse-scheiss-bots. Anyways here we just
generally respect people well enough to let them well alone.
I don't remote diagnose people. While I don't have a medical license
to lose, I feel it's impolite to potentially mis-diagnose people over
text messages.
I have not felt very respected here in comp.lang.c. I guess we must
have some different experiences in this place. Who exactly is
welcoming, and a warm person?
>
Not to spring on you that you're wrong, it's not a conspiracy
against you, anyways as per the usual Shut Up goes out to any
of these JB, JG, PO, WM, ..., sock-puppet bots.
I'm not sure I recognize all of these initials. I'm sure I'll
learn to not engage with the problem children here in comp.lang.c,
but it's been a few days, and I'm still familiarizing myself with
the regulars.
>
Thief.
Who exactly is the thief? Does this person have stats in the Rogue
class in dungeons and dragons?
Happy C coding!
[1] Those pretend em-dashes will surely make Dan Cross even more
fictional. I hope his rage isn't fictional and he'll byte every
character I type here in comp.lang.c.
| Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
| 29 Jul 26 | A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines)) | 39 | | Mild Shock |
| 29 Jul 26 |  Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] | 34 | | Mild Shock |
| 29 Jul 26 |   I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Was: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) | 4 | | Mild Shock |
| 4 Aug 26 |    Standing on the shoulders of giants (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot]) | 3 | | Mild Shock |
| 4 Aug 26 |     You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) | 2 | | Mild Shock |
| 4 Aug 26 |      How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc..) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 29 Jul 26 |   Re: Postgres is in C! | 16 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 29 Jul 26 |    Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 29 Jul 26 |    Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 30 Jul 26 |    Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 13 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 30 Jul 26 |     Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 1 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 30 Jul 26 |     Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 11 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 30 Jul 26 |      Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 2 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 31 Jul 26 |       Re: Decorum | 1 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 5 Aug 26 |      Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 8 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 5 Aug 26 |       Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 3 | | Chris M. Thomasson |
| 5 Aug 26 |        Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 2 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 5 Aug 26 |         Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 1 | | Chris M. Thomasson |
| 6 Aug 26 |       Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 3 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 7 Aug 26 |        Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 2 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 7 Aug 26 |         Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 1 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 7 Aug 26 |       Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java | 1 | | Ross Finlayson |
| 29 Jul 26 |   Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: Postgres is in C!) | 12 | | Mild Shock |
| 29 Jul 26 |    A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Was: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) | 3 | | Mild Shock |
| 30 Jul 26 |     Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM] (Re: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack) | 2 | | Mild Shock |
| 12 Aug 26 |      Re: Bullshit Authorized by Sarah Connor [EyeProlog Failure] (Re: Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM]) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 30 Jul 26 |    I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Crating Interpreters, Java part) | 6 | | Mild Shock |
| 30 Jul 26 |     For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind (Was: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) | 2 | | Mild Shock |
| 30 Jul 26 |      Corr.: 4 Months --> 4 Weeks (Was: For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 30 Jul 26 |     MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it] (Was: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) | 2 | | Mild Shock |
| 30 Jul 26 |      Not declarative with PHI (Φ) nodes (Re: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it]) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 31 Jul 26 |     Quo Vadis: Extend investigations to WebNN (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 1 Aug 26 |    RCan library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 1 Aug 26 |    Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
| 29 Jul 26 |   Re: Postgres is in C! | 1 | | Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir |
| 1 Aug 26 |  He uses "FIFO objects", and DMA and Noc [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy])) | 4 | | Mild Shock |
| 1 Aug 26 |   Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging (Re: He uses "FIFO objects", and DMA and Noc) | 3 | | Mild Shock |
| 1 Aug 26 |    NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) | 2 | | Mild Shock |
| 1 Aug 26 |     NACK retransmission might double Manhattan Distance (Re: NPUs doing 2d chess comms) | 1 | | Mild Shock |
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