Re: Repeating decimals are irrational

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Sujet : Re: Repeating decimals are irrational
De : wyniijj5 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (wij)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 27. Mar 2024, 01:05:42
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On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 15:55 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 15:01 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 13:18 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
[SNIP]
Still, rational numbers can be represented in decimal, and you already
acknowledged that "the digits may be infinitely long" for real numbers.
So 0.333..., where the sequence of 3s is unending, is a valid
representation of the rational number 1/3, yes?  It's the number itself
that's rational, regardless of which of several valid representations
you choose to express it.
 
Do you agree so far?
 
I just understand the front part of your question.
No, 1/3 and 0.333(3) are not exactly equal. See the note "∀x,a∈ℚ, x-a∈ℚ"
The semantic of "repeating" already says the number 1/3 cannot be completely
exhausted by subtracting 3/10^n. The proposition "repeating decimal is rational"
is simple false by semantics.
 
And that's where you're quite simply wrong.
 
1/3 and 0.333(3) are exactly equal, and rational.  "∀x,a∈ℚ, x-a∈ℚ" is
not violated; the difference is 0, which is also rational.  You do not
have an internally consistent model of real or rational numbers.
 
 
Then, I would ask you to provide proof, not just assertion that you are right.
My model is not perfect, but it does not matter, I am sure now you cannot really
distinguish good or bad.
 
Do you understand what a mathematical limit is?  Can you explain it?
 
If you understand limits, you should be able to understand that
0.333..., where the "..." denotes the limit as the number of 3s exceeds
without bound, is exactly equal to 1/3.
 
[...]
 

I already stated it the file:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber-en.txt/download



Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Mar 24 * Repeating decimals are irrational35wij
26 Mar 24 +* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational24Keith Thompson
26 Mar 24 i`* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational23wij
26 Mar 24 i `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational22Keith Thompson
26 Mar 24 i  `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational21wij
26 Mar 24 i   `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational20Keith Thompson
26 Mar 24 i    +- Re: Repeating decimals are irrational PLO1olcott
26 Mar 24 i    `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational18wij
27 Mar 24 i     `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational17Keith Thompson
27 Mar 24 i      `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational16wij
27 Mar 24 i       `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational15Keith Thompson
27 Mar 24 i        `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational14wij
27 Mar 24 i         `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational13Keith Thompson
27 Mar 24 i          `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational12wij
27 Mar 24 i           `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational11Keith Thompson
27 Mar 24 i            `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational10wij
27 Mar 24 i             `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational9Keith Thompson
27 Mar 24 i              `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational8wij
27 Mar 24 i               `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational7Keith Thompson
27 Mar 24 i                `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational6wij
27 Mar 24 i                 +* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational3Keith Thompson
27 Mar 24 i                 i`* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational2wij
27 Mar 24 i                 i `- Re: Repeating decimals are irrational1Keith Thompson
27 Mar 24 i                 `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational --agree--2olcott
27 Mar 24 i                  `- Re: Repeating decimals are irrational --agree--1wij
27 Mar 24 `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational10Richard Damon
27 Mar 24  +- Re: Repeating decimals are irrational1wij
28 Mar 24  `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational8wij
28 Mar 24   `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational7Richard Damon
28 Mar 24    `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational6wij
28 Mar 24     `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational5Richard Damon
28 Mar 24      `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational4wij
28 Mar 24       `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational3Richard Damon
28 Mar 24        `* Re: Repeating decimals are irrational2wij
28 Mar 24         `- Re: Repeating decimals are irrational1Richard Damon

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