Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort

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Sujet : Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 02. Apr 2024, 01:18:28
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On 4/1/24 10:52 AM, olcott wrote:
Every element of the set of implementations of H(D,D) that simulates its
input either aborts this simulation or is wrong.
Yes, every implementation of H(D,D) that does not abort is wrong.
This does NOT mean that every implementation of H(D,D) that does abort is right.
Since if H(D,D) aborts and returns to D, that D halts, that shows that H did not need to abort it simulation to reach an end statem.

It also must be the first directly executed element that performs
the abort or none of them do because all of the H elements in a
recursive simulation chain have the exact same machine code.
But the BEHAVIOR of the MACHINE being SIMULATED (the actual machine, not its simulation) has been established BEFORE H even started its simulation, so H was just wrong when it made its FAULTY deduction that it needed to abort.
You confuse the simulation of the input, with the factual establishment of its behavior, which occurs independently of the simulation, and preceeds it.

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26 Mar 24 * Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort43Mikko
26 Mar 24 `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort42olcott
27 Mar 24  `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort41Mikko
27 Mar 24   `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort40olcott
28 Mar 24    `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort39Mikko
28 Mar 24     `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort38olcott
29 Mar 24      +* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort14Richard Damon
29 Mar 24      i`* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort13olcott
29 Mar 24      i `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort12Richard Damon
29 Mar 24      i  `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort11olcott
29 Mar 24      i   +* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort7Mikko
29 Mar 24      i   i`* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort6olcott
29 Mar 24      i   i +- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
30 Mar 24      i   i `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort4Mikko
30 Mar 24      i   i  `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort3olcott
30 Mar 24      i   i   +- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
31 Mar 24      i   i   `- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Mikko
29 Mar 24      i   `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort3Richard Damon
29 Mar 24      i    `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort2olcott
29 Mar 24      i     `- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
29 Mar 24      `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort23Mikko
29 Mar 24       `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort22olcott
29 Mar 24        +- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
30 Mar 24        `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort20Mikko
30 Mar 24         `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort19olcott
30 Mar 24          +- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
31 Mar 24          `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort17Mikko
31 Mar 24           `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort16olcott
31 Mar 24            +* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort14Mikko
31 Mar 24            i+* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort11olcott
31 Mar 24            ii`* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort10olcott
1 Apr 24            ii `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort9Mikko
1 Apr 24            ii  `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort8olcott
2 Apr 24            ii   +* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort6Mikko
2 Apr 24            ii   i`* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort5olcott
3 Apr 24            ii   i +- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
3 Apr 24            ii   i `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort3Mikko
3 Apr 24            ii   i  `* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort2olcott
4 Apr 24            ii   i   `- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
2 Apr 24            ii   `- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
31 Mar 24            i`* Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort2olcott
31 Mar 24            i `- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon
31 Mar 24            `- Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort1Richard Damon

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